In a way, I like to think I don't even want or need to know, because I don't want to need "proof" like the Apostle Thomas did. At the same time, it would be a nice feather in our caps to use when trying to bring people to Christ.
I visited. The guide was very sincere, explaining that the locals have too many accounts of miracles from visitors and locals for them to doubt its authenticity, but they do not rely on science to prove or convince anyone; they simply work to maintain the building and revere the Lord.
I did not personally experience a miracle when I was there. But someone I know well did, allowing me to witness. She was unaware of where she was, thinking the shroud would be at a more ornate cathedral planned for later in the day, and wondering what this rather undecorated place was. But entering the area of the shroud's display, she was overtaken by the spirit, and felt physically compelled to kneel and cry, shedding tears and repeating "I'm sorry" over and over while crying. She is normally a very cynical, proud woman who has only uttered those words on rare occasions, and even rarer with any sincerity. It moved her greatly. I hope it changed her; I don't know, but I knew her well enough to know the experience was unsought, and real.
The outer edges were made of newer cloth, interspliced, because as the shroud was taken to various places during the middle ages it was displayed simply by holding onto the edges which wore down.
This video is long but worth the time. Without assuming it's authenticity, it is reasonable to begin with the inquiry, Who is the man in the shroud?
Haven't they also decoded the 'negative' image on it with better technology and found it was actually 3D encoded giving a much better image? They can't explain that either and just say it was made with a massive burst of contained radiation.
Strange how the 1980's results were all over the news at the time, but the recent studies are downplayed.
The time/ money spent trying to debunk it alone tells you all you need to know. It’s God’s receipt.
In a way, I like to think I don't even want or need to know, because I don't want to need "proof" like the Apostle Thomas did. At the same time, it would be a nice feather in our caps to use when trying to bring people to Christ.
I visited. The guide was very sincere, explaining that the locals have too many accounts of miracles from visitors and locals for them to doubt its authenticity, but they do not rely on science to prove or convince anyone; they simply work to maintain the building and revere the Lord.
I did not personally experience a miracle when I was there. But someone I know well did, allowing me to witness. She was unaware of where she was, thinking the shroud would be at a more ornate cathedral planned for later in the day, and wondering what this rather undecorated place was. But entering the area of the shroud's display, she was overtaken by the spirit, and felt physically compelled to kneel and cry, shedding tears and repeating "I'm sorry" over and over while crying. She is normally a very cynical, proud woman who has only uttered those words on rare occasions, and even rarer with any sincerity. It moved her greatly. I hope it changed her; I don't know, but I knew her well enough to know the experience was unsought, and real.
Cool story! Thanks for taking the time to share it, fren!
The outer edges were made of newer cloth, interspliced, because as the shroud was taken to various places during the middle ages it was displayed simply by holding onto the edges which wore down.
This video is long but worth the time. Without assuming it's authenticity, it is reasonable to begin with the inquiry, Who is the man in the shroud?
https://www.youtube.com/live/HAbuG-oVq1Q?si=SbmE5e48_Vfmv83j
Haven't they also decoded the 'negative' image on it with better technology and found it was actually 3D encoded giving a much better image? They can't explain that either and just say it was made with a massive burst of contained radiation.
Strange how the 1980's results were all over the news at the time, but the recent studies are downplayed.
+1, I also like the photographer Barrie M. Shwortz’s video talks on this subject, depending on your time available: 1 TedTalk 24 min. (not including the Tony Robbins youtube infomercial that came up when I watched this) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G4sj8hUVaY ____ 2) 1 hr. 24 min. “The Shroud of Turin- What formed the Image” Barrie Schwortz /LVA Church https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjkmLW0t50U ____ 3) 2hrs. “ Barrie Schwortz: 40 Years of Shroud Science” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qymdFQtlWPk
The Shroud of Turin debunked in the 1300's. The local bishop told the Pope it was a forgery.
So this shroud that was supposed to be on Jesus 's body after the crucifixion near Jerusalem suddenly turns up in France 1,300 years later
There's no history of this thing and then boom it's in France around 1350.
It doesn't matter. Sign seekers are abhorred by God. We have a clearly written Word of God inspired by God Himself who does not lie. Read it.