Been having conversations with various folks about why Americans in general don't stand up and take care of business in their communities. In NYC, and other areas, if someone is caught poking a child for instance, they are beaten on the streets by the neighborhood, no delays. But, in most areas in the country, people rely on the authorities to be called, come out and take care of it. THIS is why america is seen as weak by outside forces. When was the last time you saw the locals taking care of their own? I realize Q said that counter measures are in place, must be done by rule of law, etc. And I believe in that, however, there is a time and a place where the native (read American) communities need to stand up and say enough. Part of this convo is viilantism, and if it's correct or not. But I have to wonder where that line really is. When it takes LEO's 30 mins to arrive (or in my city) they only come out if there is gunfire..... Again, where, really, is that line. No one respects you if you always back down......