if you are not born, how then would you be created? I do not understand how you cannot understand that. there fore, I would not be able to explain it further. It makes me feel as though you are trolling in not understanding that.
I don't understand what you mean by this, at all. I assure you I'm not trolling, but I don't really get what you're saying. Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree. As for the toddlers vs. the adults, I would say I wouldn't judge them because I don't know what sort of life they have led. Let's take a poor toddler vs an affluent toddler. It might be tempting at that stage in life to assume the toddler raised by an affluent family would be more 'successful,' have more, have achieved more, etc. But unless we followed those children through their lives, we'll never know. It's quite possible the affluent child was given opportunities but squandered them. Or that the affluent child was from an abusive family situation which took it's toll on that person and s/he became an addict or somesuch. We don't know. The poor child might have been raised by a family that loved and cared for him, even if they didn't have much in the way of material possessions. They might have instilled in him a desire to learn, grow, do. (Think Clarence Thomas or Dr. Ben Carson.) There are just too many variables to ever guess or judge what will happen.
That's another reason I don't believe people are born equal. Like I said, maybe they are equally valuable to God in that He loves us all and wants all of us to be His. But beyond that, we are all so different, born with our own unique strengths and weaknesses. And as you alluded, we are then plopped down into a family situation that might be positive or negative, which in itself will influence a person. Anyway, that's okay. Maybe it's best if we just move on since we don't seem to understand each other's point of view. Take care.
here is maybe a better thought on it, take multiple children of billionaires and millionaires. how many have gone on to create their own dynasties and empires, and how many have gone on to mediocrity, even more important, how many have gone on to bankruptcy and destitution? yet all are "born into" a silver spoon existence. all "created equal" in a way. shouldn't they all be achieving the same successes?
if you still can not grasp even a shred of what I am trying to say, then yes, let us move on as it is a waste of everyone's time trying to discuss. take care as well.
I don't understand what you mean by this, at all. I assure you I'm not trolling, but I don't really get what you're saying. Maybe we'll just have to agree to disagree. As for the toddlers vs. the adults, I would say I wouldn't judge them because I don't know what sort of life they have led. Let's take a poor toddler vs an affluent toddler. It might be tempting at that stage in life to assume the toddler raised by an affluent family would be more 'successful,' have more, have achieved more, etc. But unless we followed those children through their lives, we'll never know. It's quite possible the affluent child was given opportunities but squandered them. Or that the affluent child was from an abusive family situation which took it's toll on that person and s/he became an addict or somesuch. We don't know. The poor child might have been raised by a family that loved and cared for him, even if they didn't have much in the way of material possessions. They might have instilled in him a desire to learn, grow, do. (Think Clarence Thomas or Dr. Ben Carson.) There are just too many variables to ever guess or judge what will happen.
That's another reason I don't believe people are born equal. Like I said, maybe they are equally valuable to God in that He loves us all and wants all of us to be His. But beyond that, we are all so different, born with our own unique strengths and weaknesses. And as you alluded, we are then plopped down into a family situation that might be positive or negative, which in itself will influence a person. Anyway, that's okay. Maybe it's best if we just move on since we don't seem to understand each other's point of view. Take care.
here is maybe a better thought on it, take multiple children of billionaires and millionaires. how many have gone on to create their own dynasties and empires, and how many have gone on to mediocrity, even more important, how many have gone on to bankruptcy and destitution? yet all are "born into" a silver spoon existence. all "created equal" in a way. shouldn't they all be achieving the same successes?
if you still can not grasp even a shred of what I am trying to say, then yes, let us move on as it is a waste of everyone's time trying to discuss. take care as well.