Wow. That's so weird! It's like how I speak Spanish with my dad's side of the family and speak Louisiana Creole when I'm with my mom's!
I guess I'm fake, too!! Just as fake as the millions and millions and millions of other Multicultural Americans who understand that code switching is simply a part of life. People who will be voting soon.
But yeah, keep focusing on her ethnicity, just to give people more ammunition when they call us a bunch of racists. That's certainly going to help things. 🙄
But nice touch with the "mammy" reference. Totally doesn't put the cherry on the sundae here.
Oh please, Kamala is the one changing her accent depending upon the crowd at her events. Watch old movies and you'll see what I meant by the "mammy" comment.
No, it isn't the same as you speaking to your family. That's real. Kamala isn't.
Yes, I'm aware of what she's doing. It's called code-switching.
I just posted about it here to the OP, you should read it.
People with multicultural backgrounds code-switch all the time, not only with their families. It's common to code-switch at work, as well. And that is her work. And they're just as "real" as you are.
There is plenty of things to criticize Harris over. I don't understand why people are picking this to make such a fuss over.
All it's doing is playing in to the stereotype that conservatives/MAGA/Anons are racists who can't grasp the concept of multiculturalism and just don't like brown people.
If you can explain how it hurts you, or anyone else, in any actual way that she uses different accents to connect with different audiences, I would love to hear it.
Do you guys just not get it that you're not doing anything good by making a big deal out of her heritage?
Seriously, what is to be gained by this? Other than emphasizing that you're out of touch with how many Americans are also from multicultural backgrounds and a)understand that code-switching is ubiquitous and b) are getting pretty sick of people saying she's "fake" for doing so, or that there's something wrong with it.
I'm going to point out that code-switching is encouraged by the same people who are criticizing her for doing it.
Just think of all the times you've heard someone criticized for not speaking "proper English" at school or work. Or for having "ethnic" hairstyles. Or wearing "ethnic" clothes?
All of that is involved in code-switching. So, basically, the idea is that people are encouraged to "act white" when they're in a predominantly white setting.
What Harris is being criticized for here is basically not "acting white" all the time in public and for understanding what people of different cultural backgrounds value, and showing that she understands that and can identify with them.
And that's really what you want to make a point of criticizing her for?
Also, I'd love for you to give an example of a time where she spoke like whatever it is that you believe a "mammy" sounds like.
I told you to watch old movies, like Gone With the Wind for instance.
No, I'm not criticizing Kamala for not acting White and you know it.
Grow a pair and stop acting like a snowflake.
Stop misdirecting. No one here is being racist. Don't try to twist our words, here.
I think you are confusing two different things.
If Kamala were speaking to a group of supporters who were of Indian ethnicity who did not speak English as a first language and she spoke to them in Hindi, or Bengali that would make sense.
Then, if she spoke to her alleged Jamaican Creole side of the family who also do not speak English as their first language and she spoke Patwa or Portuguese to them depending, then that would make sense and be seen as admirably accommodating. (That is what you say you do, right...?)
No one would criticize that at all.
But that's not what's happening!
She's speaking to, or interacting with, English speaking audiences and American people who speak English as their first language, but depending upon where she thinks she can gain the most diversity points, she embraces only one aspect of her ethnicity while denying the other, depending upon her 'crowd'.
She's engaging in different personalities altogether, and proclaiming herself 'Indian' or 'Black' or 'South Asian' or a 'Woman of Color' or a 'White, American Woman' with ever-changing body language, accents, and slang, whichever suits her more favorably at that moment.
This is what which is rightly seen as disingenuous or fake. She's not applying to be an actress for the Screen Actors Guild, but President of the United States.
If you can't see the difference, then you are being willfully ignorant.
To most of our minds, we have no issue with her blended ethnicity. But, from the beginning she should have identified as what she is - an American of Indian & Jamaican ethnicity. She's not 'Black' when it serves her or 'South Asian' when that serves her. She is of Indian & Jamaican ethnicity, period.
She's speaking to, or interacting with, English speaking audiences and American people who speak English as their first language, but depending upon where she thinks she can gain the most diversity points, she embraces only one aspect of her ethnicity while denying the other, depending upon her 'crowd'.
No, again, what she's doing is called code-switching. Did you not bother to even see what that was when I mentioned it? Obviously not, if you believe that it simply means speaking to someone in their native language.
What she is doing is showing whatever group she is with at the moment that she understands them and understands what is important to them. That is not a negative, and it doesn't make her fake or an actress.
Seriously, you need to at least try to understand multiculturalism. It's an important aspect of America today. I don't think you understand that criticizing Harris for code-switching, and being able to identify with more than one cultural background, and acknowledging that other Americans are from a non-WASP or multicultural background is going to blow up in your face.
You can keep saying that you're not a racist and that it's not racist to make these claims, but that isn't going to stop people thinking that this is all racially motivated. Especially when you also make comments about how her parents said they were Caucasian so they wouldn't be deported. I'm wondering why you think that. Because it's implying that the deportation policies in the US are based on race, and non-Caucasian people are more likely to be deported.
The comment about HBCUs having lower academic requirements than non-HBCUs also doesn't help your stance here. Where exactly are you getting that information?
Tell me how her using different accents or slang affects your life. How does it change anything in your life? Other than you choosing to let it bother you?
Choosing to make her heritage, and how she relates to different groups, such a big issue is not going to help anything.
There are plenty of things that she can be criticized over that would have an actual impact on people's lives. That should be what people are focusing on.
Racial codeswitching is one impression management strategy where Black people adjust their self-presentation to receive desirable outcomes (e.g., perceived professionalism) through mirroring the norms, behaviors, and attributes of the dominant group (i.e., White people) in specific contexts.
After all, language is powerful. It can be used to manipulate and gain control. We all make assumptions based on someone's language and behavior. If you're in a minority speaking with someone who's not, you likely code-switch to sound more like them because of cultural and racial biases. Sep 21, 2023
The dual nature of code-switching: Costs and benefits
Code-switching strategies are multifaceted and varied, and can result in a variety of benefits and drawbacks. For one, people may code-switch to obtain professional opportunities, avoid stereotypes, accrue cultural capital, or attain social belonging. These outcomes may bear a positive hue, yet the shadow of code-switching looms large, casting uncertainty upon one’s authentic self-expression. This incongruence in how individuals behave in different contexts can cause identity confusion and impact feelings of belonging in certain spaces. Moreover, the sustained act of code-switching can exact a mental toll, potentially leading to cognitive fatigue and burnout, as individuals remain hypervigilant to monitor their surroundings.
Just because people can be manipulative by using Code-switching does not make Code-switching itself manipulative. Pretty much anything can be used to manipulate people.
Why are you only posting what could be considered the negative aspects here? Are you trying to manipulate people into thinking code-switching is negative?
According to psychiatrist and body language expert Carol Lieberman, Kamala Harris suffers from "imposter syndrome," a psychological condition where a person lacks confidence in their competence and feels they don't deserve to succeed.
So should we believe them when they say this about Trump?
narcissistic personality (sometimes combined with antisocial personality), malignant narcissism, bipolar disorder, paranoid personality and paranoid psychosis, and some form of cognitive impairment reflecting early dementia. Long behavioral lists of self-aggrandizing, lying, snarly criticizing, boasting, bullying, blaming others for troubles, and needing constant praise are paraded out to the readership.
Wow. That's so weird! It's like how I speak Spanish with my dad's side of the family and speak Louisiana Creole when I'm with my mom's!
I guess I'm fake, too!! Just as fake as the millions and millions and millions of other Multicultural Americans who understand that code switching is simply a part of life. People who will be voting soon.
But yeah, keep focusing on her ethnicity, just to give people more ammunition when they call us a bunch of racists. That's certainly going to help things. 🙄
But nice touch with the "mammy" reference. Totally doesn't put the cherry on the sundae here.
Oh please, Kamala is the one changing her accent depending upon the crowd at her events. Watch old movies and you'll see what I meant by the "mammy" comment. No, it isn't the same as you speaking to your family. That's real. Kamala isn't.
Yes, I'm aware of what she's doing. It's called code-switching.
I just posted about it here to the OP, you should read it.
People with multicultural backgrounds code-switch all the time, not only with their families. It's common to code-switch at work, as well. And that is her work. And they're just as "real" as you are.
There is plenty of things to criticize Harris over. I don't understand why people are picking this to make such a fuss over.
All it's doing is playing in to the stereotype that conservatives/MAGA/Anons are racists who can't grasp the concept of multiculturalism and just don't like brown people.
If you can explain how it hurts you, or anyone else, in any actual way that she uses different accents to connect with different audiences, I would love to hear it.
Do you guys just not get it that you're not doing anything good by making a big deal out of her heritage?
Seriously, what is to be gained by this? Other than emphasizing that you're out of touch with how many Americans are also from multicultural backgrounds and a)understand that code-switching is ubiquitous and b) are getting pretty sick of people saying she's "fake" for doing so, or that there's something wrong with it.
I'm going to point out that code-switching is encouraged by the same people who are criticizing her for doing it.
Just think of all the times you've heard someone criticized for not speaking "proper English" at school or work. Or for having "ethnic" hairstyles. Or wearing "ethnic" clothes?
All of that is involved in code-switching. So, basically, the idea is that people are encouraged to "act white" when they're in a predominantly white setting.
What Harris is being criticized for here is basically not "acting white" all the time in public and for understanding what people of different cultural backgrounds value, and showing that she understands that and can identify with them.
And that's really what you want to make a point of criticizing her for?
Also, I'd love for you to give an example of a time where she spoke like whatever it is that you believe a "mammy" sounds like.
I told you to watch old movies, like Gone With the Wind for instance. No, I'm not criticizing Kamala for not acting White and you know it. Grow a pair and stop acting like a snowflake.
I have seen Gone With the Wind. I have never heard or seen Harris speak or act like Mammy from Gone With the Wind.
So, again, please tell me of a time where you've seen her speak or act like Mammy from Gone With the Wind.
Stop misdirecting. No one here is being racist. Don't try to twist our words, here.
I think you are confusing two different things.
If Kamala were speaking to a group of supporters who were of Indian ethnicity who did not speak English as a first language and she spoke to them in Hindi, or Bengali that would make sense.
Then, if she spoke to her alleged Jamaican Creole side of the family who also do not speak English as their first language and she spoke Patwa or Portuguese to them depending, then that would make sense and be seen as admirably accommodating. (That is what you say you do, right...?)
No one would criticize that at all.
But that's not what's happening!
She's speaking to, or interacting with, English speaking audiences and American people who speak English as their first language, but depending upon where she thinks she can gain the most diversity points, she embraces only one aspect of her ethnicity while denying the other, depending upon her 'crowd'.
She's engaging in different personalities altogether, and proclaiming herself 'Indian' or 'Black' or 'South Asian' or a 'Woman of Color' or a 'White, American Woman' with ever-changing body language, accents, and slang, whichever suits her more favorably at that moment.
This is what which is rightly seen as disingenuous or fake. She's not applying to be an actress for the Screen Actors Guild, but President of the United States.
If you can't see the difference, then you are being willfully ignorant.
To most of our minds, we have no issue with her blended ethnicity. But, from the beginning she should have identified as what she is - an American of Indian & Jamaican ethnicity. She's not 'Black' when it serves her or 'South Asian' when that serves her. She is of Indian & Jamaican ethnicity, period.
No, again, what she's doing is called code-switching. Did you not bother to even see what that was when I mentioned it? Obviously not, if you believe that it simply means speaking to someone in their native language.
What she is doing is showing whatever group she is with at the moment that she understands them and understands what is important to them. That is not a negative, and it doesn't make her fake or an actress.
Seriously, you need to at least try to understand multiculturalism. It's an important aspect of America today. I don't think you understand that criticizing Harris for code-switching, and being able to identify with more than one cultural background, and acknowledging that other Americans are from a non-WASP or multicultural background is going to blow up in your face.
You can keep saying that you're not a racist and that it's not racist to make these claims, but that isn't going to stop people thinking that this is all racially motivated. Especially when you also make comments about how her parents said they were Caucasian so they wouldn't be deported. I'm wondering why you think that. Because it's implying that the deportation policies in the US are based on race, and non-Caucasian people are more likely to be deported. The comment about HBCUs having lower academic requirements than non-HBCUs also doesn't help your stance here. Where exactly are you getting that information?
Tell me how her using different accents or slang affects your life. How does it change anything in your life? Other than you choosing to let it bother you?
Choosing to make her heritage, and how she relates to different groups, such a big issue is not going to help anything.
There are plenty of things that she can be criticized over that would have an actual impact on people's lives. That should be what people are focusing on.
Academic requirements shown below per published data:
840 - 1260 = 25% to 75% = HBCU's Average SAT/ACT Scores
1510 - 1580 = 25% to 75% = PWI's Ivy League Average SAT/ACT Scores
1450 - 1580 = NATIONAL UNIVERSITIES AVERAGE SAT SCORES
Sources:
https://www.alexscholarshipfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/SFA-Resource_-HBCU-Average-SAT_ACT-Scores-2.pdf
https://www.solomonadmissions.com/post/what-is-a-good-sat-score-for-ivy-league/
https://toptieradmissions.com/average-sat-scores-at-top-colleges/
You're comparing them to Ivy League schools here, while previously you were comparing them to just non-HCBUs.
Do you think all non- HBCUs are Ivy League?
What is code-switching in race?
Racial codeswitching is one impression management strategy where Black people adjust their self-presentation to receive desirable outcomes (e.g., perceived professionalism) through mirroring the norms, behaviors, and attributes of the dominant group (i.e., White people) in specific contexts.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022103121001025
Is code-switching manipulation?
After all, language is powerful. It can be used to manipulate and gain control. We all make assumptions based on someone's language and behavior. If you're in a minority speaking with someone who's not, you likely code-switch to sound more like them because of cultural and racial biases. Sep 21, 2023
https://drdivanyoung.com/code-switching-is-it-all-bad/
The dual nature of code-switching: Costs and benefits
Code-switching strategies are multifaceted and varied, and can result in a variety of benefits and drawbacks. For one, people may code-switch to obtain professional opportunities, avoid stereotypes, accrue cultural capital, or attain social belonging. These outcomes may bear a positive hue, yet the shadow of code-switching looms large, casting uncertainty upon one’s authentic self-expression. This incongruence in how individuals behave in different contexts can cause identity confusion and impact feelings of belonging in certain spaces. Moreover, the sustained act of code-switching can exact a mental toll, potentially leading to cognitive fatigue and burnout, as individuals remain hypervigilant to monitor their surroundings.
https://grad.berkeley.edu/news/announcements/lets-talk-about-code-switching-a-double-edged-sword/
Code-switching is not exclusive to black people.
Just because people can be manipulative by using Code-switching does not make Code-switching itself manipulative. Pretty much anything can be used to manipulate people.
Why are you only posting what could be considered the negative aspects here? Are you trying to manipulate people into thinking code-switching is negative?
I thought this might be of interest to you:
According to psychiatrist and body language expert Carol Lieberman, Kamala Harris suffers from "imposter syndrome," a psychological condition where a person lacks confidence in their competence and feels they don't deserve to succeed.
https://twitter.com/megynkelly/status/1837277455133937720
So we're believing psychiatrists now?
So should we believe them when they say this about Trump?
https://jaapl.org/content/46/2/267
Did you find this interesting?