The mayor owns control of their paychecks. The mayor owns control of their pension funds. The city council and mayor and feds say what they file charges against. We don’t get a say in the laws they enforce, and they’re funded with a combination of free money, unwarranted property seizures, and fraudulent for-profit fines.
If we got to say what was going to be done, and how, and the accused got to face the person accusing them of damages, and perjury penalties and understanding of the meaning of “thou shalt not commit false witness” and “as you judge, you will be judged” became understood in practical ways again, sure there is option for corruption, but do you really think that the mayor of a large city stealing a multibillion dollar pension fund to throw into a graft project that he throws the weight of the mayors office into to get everyone moving… isn’t going to generate hundreds of times more corruption than private citizens getting out of bed for free to go enforce an arrest warrant to summon someone to court to face a person claiming actual damages, because we would want our neighbors property to be restored every bit as much as ours, and for our other neighbor to not be convicted falsely any more than for us to be?
Yes, because someone will see that person working for free and make it worth their while by paying them. While maybe this private enforcement will be better initially for taking some actions against the rich and powerful that wouldn't otherwise be taken, for day-to-day crimes, the quality of service will greatly decrease and probably lead to more criminality than ever since there's no one to stop people from looting and robbing and murdering. Whoever has the bigger gang will win and might will make right.
If someone can pay US working for our own justice on a volunteer basis, they can pay a permanent incorporation working for a mayor or judiciary in the same way.
Any system can fail, but you’re advocating one point of failure (which is what we’ve had), instead of distributed points of failure (our original system), and we have seen it be corrupted.
The way they corrupted the old system was by killing everyone in wars. It was much harder, and if we can’t trust ourselves as free men, then we can’t be free. Freedom requires righteousness and standing against evil and corruption, and some places will be freer and more righteous than others. Freedom isn’t standardized.
Further, if we continue to value bribes over freedom we will receive the fruits of bribes.
Seems like private police forces would have even worse problems with corruption than the systems we have now.
We have private police, now.
The mayor owns control of their paychecks. The mayor owns control of their pension funds. The city council and mayor and feds say what they file charges against. We don’t get a say in the laws they enforce, and they’re funded with a combination of free money, unwarranted property seizures, and fraudulent for-profit fines.
If we got to say what was going to be done, and how, and the accused got to face the person accusing them of damages, and perjury penalties and understanding of the meaning of “thou shalt not commit false witness” and “as you judge, you will be judged” became understood in practical ways again, sure there is option for corruption, but do you really think that the mayor of a large city stealing a multibillion dollar pension fund to throw into a graft project that he throws the weight of the mayors office into to get everyone moving… isn’t going to generate hundreds of times more corruption than private citizens getting out of bed for free to go enforce an arrest warrant to summon someone to court to face a person claiming actual damages, because we would want our neighbors property to be restored every bit as much as ours, and for our other neighbor to not be convicted falsely any more than for us to be?
Yes, because someone will see that person working for free and make it worth their while by paying them. While maybe this private enforcement will be better initially for taking some actions against the rich and powerful that wouldn't otherwise be taken, for day-to-day crimes, the quality of service will greatly decrease and probably lead to more criminality than ever since there's no one to stop people from looting and robbing and murdering. Whoever has the bigger gang will win and might will make right.
If someone can pay US working for our own justice on a volunteer basis, they can pay a permanent incorporation working for a mayor or judiciary in the same way.
Any system can fail, but you’re advocating one point of failure (which is what we’ve had), instead of distributed points of failure (our original system), and we have seen it be corrupted.
The way they corrupted the old system was by killing everyone in wars. It was much harder, and if we can’t trust ourselves as free men, then we can’t be free. Freedom requires righteousness and standing against evil and corruption, and some places will be freer and more righteous than others. Freedom isn’t standardized.
Further, if we continue to value bribes over freedom we will receive the fruits of bribes.