Just to be clear here, I think the certificate is 100% fake, it has to be, but it's a fake document, made officially, because why wouldn't they? why resort to image editing?
It would be like if someone took over a Coca Cola factory, but then would get a bottle of Pepsi, doctor the original label to say "Coca Cola" and try to sell it as such... Just make a freaking bottle of Coca Cola...
I just tried to provide a reason why the document available has the layers in it
Though it seems it has been like this for over a decade? so IDK about that anymore, not sure if OCR was as advanced as it would have to be to separate things so cleanly
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Honestly it seems to me more likely that this document was just scanned with OCR on, by mistake or not who knows, but it will separate anything into layers.
You think with the resources these people have they'd have resorted to image manipulation? They can easily have the actual thing made, officially
But if this at least leads people to look into it it's good I guess
I just think it'll be a very easy thing to be discredited.
OCR can create layers for anything, depends on the settings, It can definitely separate a pattern as background noise and layer it, using a segmentation network.
The fact that it had all those layers to me is even more of an indication of OCR, since if it was edited by a person there wouldn't be the need to have separate layers for elements that could have been in a single one
OCR just tries it's best to group things together and layer them, but it doesn't do a fantastic job at it.
Though, it is very weird that they'd scan the thing using OCR at all of course
I still think they wouldn't need to resort to simple image editing, they controlled everything, they could have an actual certificate made...
Ah yes, of course a cabal that had complete control of government would totally go for a shitty Photoshop job when they could have an official document made just as easily.
Even though OCR can separate things like this into layers, I'm definitely completely of the mark here, you're right, for reasons.
Also, I may not be a "Photoshop professional", but I fail to see how having more layers than necessary would help it being more "passable looking", but hey that's just me.
This is what gets me. It's just so overly, needlessly complicated.
It would be much simpler and smarter to just get someone to forge a hard copy. The hard copy of whatever it was that was posted online had to be on an actual, physical piece of paper at one point for all the scanning and documenting and whatever else needed to be done.
Or do people think Obama just forwarded a copy of it to Congress and the media from his Hotmail account and that's all there was to it?
Just to be clear here, I think the certificate is 100% fake, it has to be, but it's a fake document, made officially, because why wouldn't they? why resort to image editing?
It would be like if someone took over a Coca Cola factory, but then would get a bottle of Pepsi, doctor the original label to say "Coca Cola" and try to sell it as such... Just make a freaking bottle of Coca Cola...
I just tried to provide a reason why the document available has the layers in it
Though it seems it has been like this for over a decade? so IDK about that anymore, not sure if OCR was as advanced as it would have to be to separate things so cleanly
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Honestly it seems to me more likely that this document was just scanned with OCR on, by mistake or not who knows, but it will separate anything into layers.
You think with the resources these people have they'd have resorted to image manipulation? They can easily have the actual thing made, officially
But if this at least leads people to look into it it's good I guess
I just think it'll be a very easy thing to be discredited.
I remember a debunking back then saying If you download your own birth certificate it would also be in layers.
Heh, that of course is bs, it would have to be scanned and processed in a very particular way.
Wrong . I myself downloaded the document from WH.gov.
It had SEVEN layers in Photoshop. Had nothing to do with "ocr" since ocr does not create layers for non text and other shit. It was a complete fake
OCR can create layers for anything, depends on the settings, It can definitely separate a pattern as background noise and layer it, using a segmentation network.
The fact that it had all those layers to me is even more of an indication of OCR, since if it was edited by a person there wouldn't be the need to have separate layers for elements that could have been in a single one
OCR just tries it's best to group things together and layer them, but it doesn't do a fantastic job at it.
Though, it is very weird that they'd scan the thing using OCR at all of course
I still think they wouldn't need to resort to simple image editing, they controlled everything, they could have an actual certificate made...
Naw, go look at the file for yourself. It has NOTHING to do with "ocr".
I'm a Photoshop professional. And the seven layers were simply to make a passable looking BC for the dumb voters.
Stop making excuses about "but it's ocr!!!" When it's blatantly a shitty job of making a fake BC.
Ah yes, of course a cabal that had complete control of government would totally go for a shitty Photoshop job when they could have an official document made just as easily.
Even though OCR can separate things like this into layers, I'm definitely completely of the mark here, you're right, for reasons.
Also, I may not be a "Photoshop professional", but I fail to see how having more layers than necessary would help it being more "passable looking", but hey that's just me.
This is what gets me. It's just so overly, needlessly complicated.
It would be much simpler and smarter to just get someone to forge a hard copy. The hard copy of whatever it was that was posted online had to be on an actual, physical piece of paper at one point for all the scanning and documenting and whatever else needed to be done.
Or do people think Obama just forwarded a copy of it to Congress and the media from his Hotmail account and that's all there was to it?
Something like that. Yes.
Obama isn't some genius. He's just a puppet.
Even Snowden fucked up and he worked for NSA. Also, remember, these people thought they were untouchable.
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They scanned it and also borrowed parts from the Nordyke Twins who were born around the same time in Hawaii.