I would never do a traditional war dance for a game. We believe in walking in balance with God and all life he created and the world he created. War is a last resort and the people knew when they saw the war pipe being brought there would be council to decide is we go to war or not. Then the war drums and war dance were done once it was decided. Because it was a good day to day. It was considered a good day to die if one defended the people in the village from harm and was not a selfish death. Hollyweird corrupted the message to make it appears the person is a bad azz who states this. This is more i9nline with us what Jesus shared about no greater love then laying down ones life to save another.
Btw, I do not think the Haka is, per se, a war dance. Polynesians were to some degree not often coming into contact with outside forces, because they populated remote islands. And even NZ is two islands and has some fairly robust territory that would to some degree keep tribes away from other tribes.
So the Haka was, if I understand it correctly, a greeting to foreigners that was also intended as a show of strength. A sort of "Welcome, but see our fierce warriors and do not attempt to abuse us." In rugby the All Blacks have in some ways turned it into a War Dance, and referencing your post here, I think some traditionalist Maoris have some reservations about that idea. But it makes for good television, and it may help to win matches (psychological warfare).
P.S. If you are unaware of this ceremony, I suspect you are unaware of "Once Were Warriors".
Please watch.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110729/
Much is lost. But not all.
I am familiar with all our Tribal Ceremonies here. But never have seen from Ceremonies from other parts of the world. Thank you for the link.
Yes that was why I sent it. It would gladden my heart if you would see yourself ... in them.
I would never do a traditional war dance for a game. We believe in walking in balance with God and all life he created and the world he created. War is a last resort and the people knew when they saw the war pipe being brought there would be council to decide is we go to war or not. Then the war drums and war dance were done once it was decided. Because it was a good day to day. It was considered a good day to die if one defended the people in the village from harm and was not a selfish death. Hollyweird corrupted the message to make it appears the person is a bad azz who states this. This is more i9nline with us what Jesus shared about no greater love then laying down ones life to save another.
Makes sense.
Btw, I do not think the Haka is, per se, a war dance. Polynesians were to some degree not often coming into contact with outside forces, because they populated remote islands. And even NZ is two islands and has some fairly robust territory that would to some degree keep tribes away from other tribes.
So the Haka was, if I understand it correctly, a greeting to foreigners that was also intended as a show of strength. A sort of "Welcome, but see our fierce warriors and do not attempt to abuse us." In rugby the All Blacks have in some ways turned it into a War Dance, and referencing your post here, I think some traditionalist Maoris have some reservations about that idea. But it makes for good television, and it may help to win matches (psychological warfare).