The first thanksgiving in America was when the Catholics discovered Florida & the Indians participated in the holy Mass. On September 8, 1565, Pedro Menéndez de Avilés and 800 Spanish settlers founded the city of St. Augustine in Spanish La Florida. As soon as they were ashore, the landing party celebrated a Mass of Thanksgiving.
But yeah, I was talking to my Nephew & Niece who attend public school & it’s interesting that we only learn about the British-Protestant’s involvement in the new world, hail thanksgiving as the birth of our nation & public schools gloss over the fact the America was already discovered & already had established Christian colonies on both sides of the countries coasts years before Plymouth!!! At this point I find the purpose of promoting thanksgiving to really be about upholding the Protestant mythos. Indians broke bread & participated in the Mass with Christian’s a Half-century Prots even arrived to the
New world.
This particular holiday feels inauthentic to me personally. I believe it diminishes the real Thanksgiving, by glossing over America’s original Christian history.
It’s mind blowing more Christian’s don’t know this.
In fairness to King James I of England, who was also King James VI of Scotland, he ascended to the English throne in 1603 and the Catholics tried to blow him up in 1605. I can see why he might be a bit anti.
Because his predecessor was a witch & Queen Elizabeth I had illegitimately took over the english thrown & began to hunt down Catholics that did not follow the new state religion.
King James would then write the edited, new bible & essentially change the religion. This was tantamount to sending your fellow Englishmen to hell because they no longer had ties to the true faith.
Yes, I seem to recall that it all got very complicated with the Tudors. Henry VIII wanted a divorce. He married his dead brother's wife who was from a powerful Spanish family and Catholics were not in favour of divorce so he invented his own religion. He then married the woman who became Elizabeth's mother. Henry had another daughter as well. Before that time there were no queens so Henry also changed those rules.
After Henry's death we had Mary who was brought up as a Catholic. She was known as Bloody Mary because she "eliminated" many of the new religion. Her brother, Edward VI did not last long and then we had Elizabeth for whom, one could argue, the new religion was created.
Elizabeth always thought he cousin, another Mary and a Scottish queen in her own right, was plotting against her. She was married to the French heir to the throne at one time as well but he died. Eventually, she was executed but the irony is that James I was her son so the Scots won anyway?
Yup, there is a lot of intrigue in the early Protestant revolt; it was a political shift disguised as a religious revolution.
Les we forget that Anne Boylen, the woman King Henry VIII would betray Rome for, he would later execute her for witchcraft.
People will dismiss that fact but what adds to the intrigue is that her Daughter, Queen Elizabeth I, would openly practice the occult. Her astrologist was a hard-core occultist by the name of John Dee. Her head of intelligence was Francis Bacon.
While King James may have been Queen Mary’s son (Catholic Queen, rightful heir to the English thrown) he would go on to publish the 75 year old Protestant Bible with all of the edits made by Luther.
I think this was what set off Catholics in England to take down this Monarchy; they viewed publishing an altered, edited Protestant Bible tantamount to deceiving untold amount of souls and dragging them to hell. I can see why Guy Fawkes was so passionate about taking down this depraved monarchy.
Anne Boleyn was accused of witchcraft by King Henry VIII and her enemies, but witchcraft was not a charge used to convict her. Looking at their daughters occult connection, I believe that the fruit did not fall far from the tree.
The lesson is that equity, socialism, communism, or whatever else you call it leads to poverty.
The first thanksgiving in America was when the Catholics discovered Florida & the Indians participated in the holy Mass. On September 8, 1565, Pedro Menéndez de Avilés and 800 Spanish settlers founded the city of St. Augustine in Spanish La Florida. As soon as they were ashore, the landing party celebrated a Mass of Thanksgiving.
this was over a 50 years before Plymouth myth.
You wouldn't happen to be Catholic would you?
Just a Christian who loves history.
But yeah, I was talking to my Nephew & Niece who attend public school & it’s interesting that we only learn about the British-Protestant’s involvement in the new world, hail thanksgiving as the birth of our nation & public schools gloss over the fact the America was already discovered & already had established Christian colonies on both sides of the countries coasts years before Plymouth!!! At this point I find the purpose of promoting thanksgiving to really be about upholding the Protestant mythos. Indians broke bread & participated in the Mass with Christian’s a Half-century Prots even arrived to the New world.
This particular holiday feels inauthentic to me personally. I believe it diminishes the real Thanksgiving, by glossing over America’s original Christian history.
It’s mind blowing more Christian’s don’t know this.
In fairness to King James I of England, who was also King James VI of Scotland, he ascended to the English throne in 1603 and the Catholics tried to blow him up in 1605. I can see why he might be a bit anti.
Because his predecessor was a witch & Queen Elizabeth I had illegitimately took over the english thrown & began to hunt down Catholics that did not follow the new state religion.
King James would then write the edited, new bible & essentially change the religion. This was tantamount to sending your fellow Englishmen to hell because they no longer had ties to the true faith.
Yes, I seem to recall that it all got very complicated with the Tudors. Henry VIII wanted a divorce. He married his dead brother's wife who was from a powerful Spanish family and Catholics were not in favour of divorce so he invented his own religion. He then married the woman who became Elizabeth's mother. Henry had another daughter as well. Before that time there were no queens so Henry also changed those rules.
After Henry's death we had Mary who was brought up as a Catholic. She was known as Bloody Mary because she "eliminated" many of the new religion. Her brother, Edward VI did not last long and then we had Elizabeth for whom, one could argue, the new religion was created.
Elizabeth always thought he cousin, another Mary and a Scottish queen in her own right, was plotting against her. She was married to the French heir to the throne at one time as well but he died. Eventually, she was executed but the irony is that James I was her son so the Scots won anyway?
Yup, there is a lot of intrigue in the early Protestant revolt; it was a political shift disguised as a religious revolution.
Les we forget that Anne Boylen, the woman King Henry VIII would betray Rome for, he would later execute her for witchcraft.
People will dismiss that fact but what adds to the intrigue is that her Daughter, Queen Elizabeth I, would openly practice the occult. Her astrologist was a hard-core occultist by the name of John Dee. Her head of intelligence was Francis Bacon.
While King James may have been Queen Mary’s son (Catholic Queen, rightful heir to the English thrown) he would go on to publish the 75 year old Protestant Bible with all of the edits made by Luther.
I think this was what set off Catholics in England to take down this Monarchy; they viewed publishing an altered, edited Protestant Bible tantamount to deceiving untold amount of souls and dragging them to hell. I can see why Guy Fawkes was so passionate about taking down this depraved monarchy.
I thought the charges at Anne Boleyn's trial were adultery, incest, and treason not witchcraft?
Anne Boleyn was accused of witchcraft by King Henry VIII and her enemies, but witchcraft was not a charge used to convict her. Looking at their daughters occult connection, I believe that the fruit did not fall far from the tree.