Spiritually maybe, but not biological:

No, not spiritual. It's biological. There is a false translation in Genesis 4.

But that is an indepth discussion, and just not into it right now. Maybe we can debate it another time.

That's because Cain fled the family as he murdered his brother Abel, so the patriarchical line then descended through the next son, Seth.

The point is that there is a particular biological branch of the family tree of Adam, which goes through Seth, and ends up as Isrealites, and ultimately to Jesus.

It goes through Seth, not Cain -- as you recognize.

God >> Adam >> Seth >> ... Jesus/God.

Most Christians never really think about what this means.

No, he clearly states that their father, who was a murder from the beginning, was the devil:

Who was the murderer from the beginning?

Cain.

That's because he was the son of Satan.

That's WHY he committed murder.

John 8 --

33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

Remember, long ago the Israelites were slaves in Egypt, and then Judahites (a branch of the Israelite family tree) became slaves in Babylon. Some of them returned to Judea after that captivity.

But these people say they were never slaves. Therefore, they could not have been the Israelites/Judahites. They were something else.

They tell Jesus they are Abraham's chlidren. But Jesus knows that is not exactly true.

37 I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.

38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

So, Jesus' father (God) is not the same as their father (Satan).

39 They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father.

Here, they are making a claim that is partially true. These people were Edomites (the ancestors to today's jews), living in Judea, where the Edomites controlled the area, subject to higher Roman authority, in the time of Jesus.

It's all right there in the listing of the family tree in Genesis.

Esau/Edom was a grandson of Abraham.

But Esau/Edom also mixed with the non-Semites/non-Hebrews and became a different, mixed race.

They mixed with the Canaanites, Hittites, and Kenites.

Thus, they became a mixed race with some of Abrahams' blood, but also the bloodlines of others.

So, they could make the claim that "Abraham is our father," but Jesus saw right through it. Abraham was a pure blood, as were the Israelites. But these people were not.

Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.

40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.

Again, telling them that neither God nor Abraham are their father.

41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

Now, THIS is where the modern churches all ignore and get wrong this word "fornication."

They want us to believe that it means "sex outside of marriage." But this exchange between Jesus and these Edomites has nothing at all to do with sex outside of marriage.

They are claiming they are children of God (through Abraham), like the Israelites.

But Jesus knows it is a lie.

The respond by saying they are not born of fornication.

But they are.

Because fornication means RACE MIXING.

Due to the race mixing of Esau/Edom, the Edomites became a mixed race, and were never of the Israelite part of the biological family tree.

They were a different branch.

They were the Edomite branch.

Jesus knows this.

42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

They cannot hear his word because they are not his people -- they are not of God.

44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Cain was a murderer from the beginning -- because he was the son of Satan (the "Adversary" in Hebrew).

45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

48 Then answered the Jews, and said unto him, Say we not well that thou art a Samaritan, and hast a devil?

49 Jesus answered, I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

Who dishonors Jesus and Christianity?

The modern day jews.

These Edomites (ancestors of modern jews -- which the jews themselves acknowledge) were a mixed race: part Abraham (from Seth), part Canaanite and Hittite (from Ham), and part Kenite (from Cain).

This is why they would not, could not, and did not agree with anything Jesus said.

"Satan" in Hebrew means "Adversary."

These people were/are the adversaries of God's people.

This is a BIOLOGICAL bloodline. It comes ultimately from Cain, the murderer from the beginning.

Eve did not eat an apple in the Garden of Eden. That was a euphamism.

It never said apple. It said fruit. And original Hebrew said "Fruit of the Loin."

This was a term used for sex.

The Serpent seduced Eve, and the result was Cain.

As we are later told in Revelation 12:

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

The Serpent is the Devil or Satan or the Adversary or the Deceiver.

That Serpent was cast out, and was in the Garden of Eden.

Why didn't it say that in Genesis?

Because Jesus said, in Matthew 13:

35 I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

We cannot understand the OT without the NT, or the NT without the OT.

This is why jews and muslims will never understand.

That Serpent in the Garden of Even could be called Satanic blood (or, "blood of the adversary" or deceiver). It runs through the biological descendants of Cain.

This explains much of the turmoil in the world, for the past many thousands of years.

explained by the dispersal from Babel in Genesis 11:

Babel was long before the eventual migration to Europe and the development of the various European languages.

One has nothing to do with the other.

Gen 10:2-5 explains that the Gentiles (Europe, I believe) were descended tom Japheth:

No.

You have to be careful with certain words. Some of them do not mean what we are told to believe.

"Gentile" is an English word. It comes from the Latin "Gentilus," which meant someone who was not a Roman citizen.

It has nothing to do with jew or non-jew, which is what most people think today.

The Hebrew word "goy" (and "goyim," which is the plural) means "nation." It does not mean "non-jew." It has nothing at all to do with jews.

Likewise, the Greek word "Ethnos" also means "nation."

"Nation" itself comes from the latin word "nacio," and it means "of birth" and refers to a blood relation.

Today, people use the word "nation" but they do not use it in its proper context.

Nation is a group of people, or a society, that are all related by blood.

In Japan, they have a nation. They are all related by blood (not counting the visitors, which they call "gaijin."

It would be accurate to say that in Japan, the Japanese people are "goy" (individual) or "goyim" (all of them), because they are a nation, and the non-Japanese people are "gentiles," because they are non-Japanese.

These are the true meanings of the words. Not just for Japanese, but just using them to demonstrate the point.

In 1930's Germany, the White German people could have been called the goy/goyim (the "nation"), and the jews and others would have been the gentiles.

The jews have just subverted the true meanings of these words.

Regarding Japeth, we know that Noah's 3 sons were all White because Noah and his wife were White. You can't get anything but White from White/White.

God chose Noah to build the ark and carry out this mission BECAUSE he was "perfect in his generations" (or "ancestry") [see: Genesis 6:9].

Shem's ancestors became the Semites, the Hebrews, and the Israelites. Esau/Edom also came from this line, but unlike Jacob/Israel, he did not stay within his own bloodline.

He mixed with Canaanites, who were from Ham.

Canaan was cursed because he was the product of incest (Ham had sex with his own mother).

Some of Japeth's ancestors may have also ended up in Europe, but his is not of the Israelite family tree. That went through Shem. And the Israelites became the Caucasians and Europeans.

Interesting subject.