You’re overthinking this like crazy. It’s simple. I’m trying to dumb this down for you and I’m having problems doing so. Ok….umm , if I snuck into Russia tomorrow, then got caught by their forces of anti illegal immigration, am I innocent, by law..their law, and therefore cannot be guilty of anything…..you see this? Do you understand? THEY ARE NOT LEGAL CITIZENS. Once again you are confusing the situation. Citizens cannot be guilty of being illegal citizens. In Russia, I’m guilty. It’s not a civil issue, it’s federal. No courts. No jury. Guilty. I’m guilty as soon as I snuck through the window. No due process of the justice system, I’m not a citizen. If I broke into your home, got caught, I go to court, guilty, punishment, etc. A ILLEGAL doesn’t get this same treatment. Why would they? They are not citizens. I explained in my other post by different levels of justice, civil, federal, etc. But the reason why a illegal is a criminal, with now a record, is because they are ILLEGALLY here, and now we document them(record them) and send them packing. Which gives a record.
And even worse is what we have. Illegals with a criminal record, which shouldn’t even be a real thing. But it is. That’s how bad our situation is. Our justice system process then as citizens. They killed and raped, processed like they lived here. Most countries wouldn’t even have to follow their own laws and could bury them out back. Our illegals are getting fair treatment and being delivered still breathing. For now. Many won’t go that easy because our corrupt system protected them. Which is against the laws of this land.
No, I'm really not. It's simply understanding very simple concepts, such as words having meaning.
What's going on here is people wanting to just ignore facts in favor of their feelings.
But the reason why a illegal is a criminal, with now a record, is because they are ILLEGALLY here, and now we document them(record them) and send them packing. Which gives a record
You don't even realize you're making my point for me.
Maybe if you got a pencil, and a piece of paper, and wrote down all the key words and phrases, and looked up the definition of each of them and made a Venn Diagram based on those definitions, you might begin to understand. (Spoiler: sometimes the circles don't overlap).Or maybe not. I fear you're a lost cause.
Well ok then. You agree. Criminals with a record. See, easy. Press Secretary was spot on. And the reporter with his loaded question of trying to legalize them, failed. As does anyone trying to justify an illegal citizen anything other than a criminal. And I’m sure some are good people. But sneaking into my house window isn’t how someone enters my home. Hopefully lessons being learned.
Again, I'm not arguing that they aren't criminals. They are but criminal =/= criminal record.
Yes, the media was trying to give the impression that all illegal aliens aren't dangerous criminals, which is what people tend to think of when they hear the term criminal record.
But, and here's the thing, not every illegal alien has a criminal record, which is obvious. Its a simple fact.
The problem is that the Press Secretary either a) was knowingly lying by saying all of them did or b) was displaying her ignorance over what the term criminal record means.
There it is. That's the issue. Either way, her comments aren't going to go over well with anyone other than the high-fiving nut flexers I referred to in an earlier comment.
Do you see anyone changing their opinion on the issue because of what she said? Truly? I don't.
Do you see people using what she said to paint the Trump Administration as ignorant and/or disingenuous? I do.
But hell, maybe it will distract people from noticing that grown ass patriots don't know how a bill is passed into a law and are apparently going to skip paying their income tax this year because they think introducing a bill is the same as a law being passed and immediately implemented.
I don't know why I even bother anymore. I truly don't. I'm this close 🤏 to just deciding each side is full of fucking retards and just ignoring politics all together. Just let you all stomp on the gas when you're driving straight towards a brick wall instead of trying to get you to at least ease up on the gas.
It’s probably more of a term “criminal record” and what it means to which grp. Technically illegals all have a record, as soon as they are caught. If caught. Due process won’t be a thing of course. But, former administrations, gave illegals rights. And some were given due process and not charged. Not their fault, the systems fault. In reality they are criminals, and when caught, recorded. It just the reporter is ignorant of these facts. Mostly due to previous corrupt administrations.
Yea I understand your last paragraph. I’ve felt this way before. And to be honest, I get onto myself for “caring” more than I should about worldly things. Better I should be trying to help people find Jesus than explain Trumps motives. That’s my fault. Something I should be doing much better. Good conversation friend. Take care. ❤️
You’re overthinking this like crazy. It’s simple. I’m trying to dumb this down for you and I’m having problems doing so. Ok….umm , if I snuck into Russia tomorrow, then got caught by their forces of anti illegal immigration, am I innocent, by law..their law, and therefore cannot be guilty of anything…..you see this? Do you understand? THEY ARE NOT LEGAL CITIZENS. Once again you are confusing the situation. Citizens cannot be guilty of being illegal citizens. In Russia, I’m guilty. It’s not a civil issue, it’s federal. No courts. No jury. Guilty. I’m guilty as soon as I snuck through the window. No due process of the justice system, I’m not a citizen. If I broke into your home, got caught, I go to court, guilty, punishment, etc. A ILLEGAL doesn’t get this same treatment. Why would they? They are not citizens. I explained in my other post by different levels of justice, civil, federal, etc. But the reason why a illegal is a criminal, with now a record, is because they are ILLEGALLY here, and now we document them(record them) and send them packing. Which gives a record.
And even worse is what we have. Illegals with a criminal record, which shouldn’t even be a real thing. But it is. That’s how bad our situation is. Our justice system process then as citizens. They killed and raped, processed like they lived here. Most countries wouldn’t even have to follow their own laws and could bury them out back. Our illegals are getting fair treatment and being delivered still breathing. For now. Many won’t go that easy because our corrupt system protected them. Which is against the laws of this land.
Hope this helps.
No, I'm really not. It's simply understanding very simple concepts, such as words having meaning.
What's going on here is people wanting to just ignore facts in favor of their feelings.
You don't even realize you're making my point for me.
Maybe if you got a pencil, and a piece of paper, and wrote down all the key words and phrases, and looked up the definition of each of them and made a Venn Diagram based on those definitions, you might begin to understand. (Spoiler: sometimes the circles don't overlap).Or maybe not. I fear you're a lost cause.
Well ok then. You agree. Criminals with a record. See, easy. Press Secretary was spot on. And the reporter with his loaded question of trying to legalize them, failed. As does anyone trying to justify an illegal citizen anything other than a criminal. And I’m sure some are good people. But sneaking into my house window isn’t how someone enters my home. Hopefully lessons being learned.
Again, I'm not arguing that they aren't criminals. They are but criminal =/= criminal record.
Yes, the media was trying to give the impression that all illegal aliens aren't dangerous criminals, which is what people tend to think of when they hear the term criminal record.
But, and here's the thing, not every illegal alien has a criminal record, which is obvious. Its a simple fact.
The problem is that the Press Secretary either a) was knowingly lying by saying all of them did or b) was displaying her ignorance over what the term criminal record means.
There it is. That's the issue. Either way, her comments aren't going to go over well with anyone other than the high-fiving nut flexers I referred to in an earlier comment.
Do you see anyone changing their opinion on the issue because of what she said? Truly? I don't.
Do you see people using what she said to paint the Trump Administration as ignorant and/or disingenuous? I do.
But hell, maybe it will distract people from noticing that grown ass patriots don't know how a bill is passed into a law and are apparently going to skip paying their income tax this year because they think introducing a bill is the same as a law being passed and immediately implemented.
I don't know why I even bother anymore. I truly don't. I'm this close 🤏 to just deciding each side is full of fucking retards and just ignoring politics all together. Just let you all stomp on the gas when you're driving straight towards a brick wall instead of trying to get you to at least ease up on the gas.
It’s probably more of a term “criminal record” and what it means to which grp. Technically illegals all have a record, as soon as they are caught. If caught. Due process won’t be a thing of course. But, former administrations, gave illegals rights. And some were given due process and not charged. Not their fault, the systems fault. In reality they are criminals, and when caught, recorded. It just the reporter is ignorant of these facts. Mostly due to previous corrupt administrations.
Yea I understand your last paragraph. I’ve felt this way before. And to be honest, I get onto myself for “caring” more than I should about worldly things. Better I should be trying to help people find Jesus than explain Trumps motives. That’s my fault. Something I should be doing much better. Good conversation friend. Take care. ❤️