Thank you for showing discernment. The number of people that fell for the tranny pilot hoax is staggering. Not just here, but most of my friends/family. RIP CWO Eaves.
There was a third person onboard according to all accounts I have seen.
Some sources: three military aboard: one male w 1000 hours, one male and one female with 500 hours. The males have been named. YES WHO was the third person?!? Obv they know!
Although they used a PAT call sign, it is called a training mission for using night vision devices, not a priority person being transported. [Did they recover night vision devices with the bodies?]
Why train with night vision devices in a busy dangerous air corridor?? Why then?? Do they usually do those training runs for night vision in this corridor at this time? Why not 2am? [Haven't heard anyone ask that question either.]
Obviously flying visual is hampered by wearing night vision devices!! Limited peripheral vision, distorted "view" of the scene . . .
Yes they need to train on that . . . but in a busy corridor, dangerous already, where the tower is known to be understaffed??
Are they actually training to take out an enemy aircraft under night vision conditions, by flying in a busy city with lots of lights and lots of air traffic?
So they are basically training to take down an innocent plane b/c they cannot distinguish what they are actually seeing to know it is an enemy they have in their sights / sight?? Who authorized this training mission? etc. etc.
It is possible the helicopter did not see the correct plane and this was just an accident..... but that seems unlikely to me with 3 experienced flyers. They are watching the sky......and they probably have some sort of radar and can see other aircraft in the sky. This was not a commercial helicopter but a black hawk.
What if it was highjacked and this was NOT an accident. I know this is a conspiracy theory but Will we ever really know the truth?
I suppose from NOW ON I will give everything a 12 hour window before I post since I thought the tranny pilot was posted after it was confirmed. Burned again! RIP my fellow Mississippian!
I suppose there might be some reason like that they haven't gotten in contact with her close family or significant other or somebody like that yet, and don't want them to find out from the news.
I suppose there could always be some temporary problem with that contact. Somebody is on a hiking trip or abroad or something like that. While most of us are available 24/7 these days people still do things that take them out of that for a time.
Thank you for showing discernment. The number of people that fell for the tranny pilot hoax is staggering. Not just here, but most of my friends/family. RIP CWO Eaves.
There are 2 pilots. This was one of them.
Pilot, co-pilot and crew chief on a Black Hawk.
Friend of mine, former CWO3 with over 20 years flying a Blackhawk evac sent me this a few minutes ago: https://www.newsweek.com/washington-dc-plane-crash-jo-ellis-trans-helicopter-pilot-wrongly-named-2024149
Co-pilot is listed as a woman.
Yep. But they haven't released her name yet for some reason. Unless she is really a he.
True. What's odd is they have also released the name of the crew chief. He was Ryan O’Hara from Georgia. The airline pilot was also from Georgia.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dc-plane-crash-victim-helicopter-army-b2689466.html
I wouldn't place a lot in where these people came from unless some glaring pattern emerges.
I wasn't, just thought is was unusual. Btw, I also corrected my link in the comment above.
500 hours, but not her name although the men were named??
I just posted this. May be BS: https://x.com/Angelhunter1776/status/1885237095570034689
There was a third person onboard according to all accounts I have seen.
Some sources: three military aboard: one male w 1000 hours, one male and one female with 500 hours. The males have been named. YES WHO was the third person?!? Obv they know!
Although they used a PAT call sign, it is called a training mission for using night vision devices, not a priority person being transported. [Did they recover night vision devices with the bodies?]
Why train with night vision devices in a busy dangerous air corridor?? Why then?? Do they usually do those training runs for night vision in this corridor at this time? Why not 2am? [Haven't heard anyone ask that question either.]
Obviously flying visual is hampered by wearing night vision devices!! Limited peripheral vision, distorted "view" of the scene . . .
Yes they need to train on that . . . but in a busy corridor, dangerous already, where the tower is known to be understaffed??
Are they actually training to take out an enemy aircraft under night vision conditions, by flying in a busy city with lots of lights and lots of air traffic?
So they are basically training to take down an innocent plane b/c they cannot distinguish what they are actually seeing to know it is an enemy they have in their sights / sight?? Who authorized this training mission? etc. etc.
Was this human error or a highjacked helicopter?
It is possible the helicopter did not see the correct plane and this was just an accident..... but that seems unlikely to me with 3 experienced flyers. They are watching the sky......and they probably have some sort of radar and can see other aircraft in the sky. This was not a commercial helicopter but a black hawk.
What if it was highjacked and this was NOT an accident. I know this is a conspiracy theory but Will we ever really know the truth?
I really hope this was just an extremely unfortunate accident. But I do not think we will ever be told the truth.
That’s one. Who was the other?
I suppose from NOW ON I will give everything a 12 hour window before I post since I thought the tranny pilot was posted after it was confirmed. Burned again! RIP my fellow Mississippian!
The co-pilot is reported to be a woman.
but suspiciously not named yet; are you kidding me?? they know who she was!
I suppose there might be some reason like that they haven't gotten in contact with her close family or significant other or somebody like that yet, and don't want them to find out from the news.
I get that. OK. For the first hectic hours and day.
Active duty are required to provide that info. They know who to contact.
But no one is even asking who she is?!?
I suppose there could always be some temporary problem with that contact. Somebody is on a hiking trip or abroad or something like that. While most of us are available 24/7 these days people still do things that take them out of that for a time.
OK but no one is asking, and the answer is not b/c we have not yet notified the next of kin. We would get that.