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posted ago by rededub ago by rededub +14 / -0

I do not mean to offend anyone and I'm really wanting to see if others here are in a similar headspace regarding religion... atheism being one - that's it.

I have been here for quite a while - both this amazing site as well as the headspace I want to describe. I firmly believe (due to facts and not faith) Q was most likely a military operation or part of it and still is and the posts are used by those in the know for communications (continued proofs sans-new-drops). I completely respect anyone's choice to believe in a god(s) but find the same spiritual enlightenment from the natural world without this. I have been through Christian churches, and I was quite involved in a Christadelphian Ecclesia in my early 20's for a couple years - it resonated with me because of not believing in the trinity and just that Jesus was a man - a very good man, indeed to Christadelphians as they believe he was the son of god. I don't find myself conflicted in the slightest regarding Q and truly enjoy the site and everything in it. I have never and would never discuss this in anyone else's post regarding anything religious and have never mentioned this once here before now.

If anyone would like to see what I am even talking about or do not actually know what atheism is I would recommend starting with a book... The God Delusion by Richard Dawkins. I'm not saying I agree with all of Dawkins, but its a good place to start if interested.

I can go on about most of the founding fathers and their adherence to separation of church and state and the changing views of Thomas Jefferson really make think he was either close to being atheist or just was in hiding... sure, its ridiculed today but back then it was even questioned if an atheist could be called a citizen. Everyone knows about Einstein, Carl Segan, Stephen Hawkins and a countless list of other intellectuals that "believe there are believers" but do not themselves, like myself, believe in a personal god. There is a direct quote from Einstein on the matter: "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

I spent years going to bible study through late teens and early 20's, I then read the bible like a book... and then I read it like a book after being introduced to the Christadelphian church - with the added benefit of translating many words directly from Hebrew and Greek. It reads very different when you replace a supernatural Satan with what the original word translates to... "adversary" in EVERY INSTANCE in the old testament. But this still included too much dogma for me to get past I think and it took years to even consider atheism.

I used to say I had the "Rudy" answer - in the movie Rudy that is... Rev. John Cavanaugh gave the statement "There is a god, and he isn't me" - but that was just a cop-out for me to not have to dive into the matter.

I didn't actually come to the conclusion of actual Atheism until the last few years even. I find no conflict in enjoying religious artworks, idols, and sayings of any kind. I enjoy both "In God We Trust" on our currency just as I enjoy the Buddha statuette in my office. However I am also in awe often of just what can be destroyed in the name of gods.

Is anyone else in this same place?