The attack on Moscow was a last-ditch effort by Ukraine (EU, UK, France, NATO) to try and kill the Saudi Arabia peace talks today held by Rubio, Waltz, and team.
I believe Trump and Putin both know the true enemy in this war is the EU/UK/France/NATO.
This whole thing started because the Eurogroup was trying to add Ukraine to NATO. This is the equivalent of Russia or China setting up shop in Mexico or Canada. We would never allow that.
The EU/UK/France/NATO cabal has proven they cannot support or defend Ukraine without the US. Trump knows this. Trump knows he has all the cards. Putin knows this, too.
First step, make the dickhead in chief snot-faced-fluck-stick Zelenskyy sit down and shut the fluck up.
Then, discuss with Putin how to carve off part of eastern Ukraine for Russia and end the war.
Why does Russia get part of Ukraine? Same reason they got part of Crimea and Georgia. They want a damn buffer from the evil cabal known as NATO.
NATO and the EU are NOT the friends of the US. They want the US to fall more than anyone else.
Actually it really started in 2014 when Ukraine started bombing the Russians in the Donbas region after the Russians annexed Crimea. BTW - Zelensky didn't become President until 2019, so the skirmishes were under an acting President, likely backed up by Victoria Nuland, USAID, and NED.
NATO wasn't (and still isn't) innocent, but Ukraine wanting to join NATO isn't the only reason for the ongoing war.
Here's what Grok said when I asked when Ukraine started bombing Donbass.
The conflict in the Donbas region, which includes parts of Donetsk and Luhansk in eastern Ukraine, began in 2014, following Russia’s annexation of Crimea. There’s no single, precise date for when "Ukraine started bombing Donbas," as the situation evolved gradually with escalating violence rather than a sudden onset of aerial bombardment. However, the Ukrainian government’s military response, termed the "Anti-Terrorist Operation" (ATO), was officially launched on April 15, 2014, under acting President Oleksandr Turchynov. This marked the beginning of concerted efforts to counter pro-Russian separatists who had seized government buildings and declared independence in the region.
The roots of the conflict trace back to early April 2014. On April 6–7, pro-Russian activists, supported by Russian operatives like Igor Girkin (Strelkov), stormed security service (SBU) offices in Donetsk and Luhansk, arming themselves and calling for referendums on independence. By April 12, Girkin’s group had taken Sloviansk, sparking armed clashes. Ukraine’s initial response involved ground operations to reclaim control, with fighting intensifying over the following weeks. The first significant use of heavy weaponry, including artillery and airstrikes by Ukrainian forces, emerged in late May and early June 2014. For instance, on May 26, Ukrainian forces used air support to retake Donetsk airport from separatists, marking a notable escalation. By June 19–20, battles like the one near Krasny Lyman saw the Ukrainian military deploying air and artillery strikes against insurgent positions, as part of efforts to secure key areas.
Both sides used heavy weapons as the conflict grew. Separatists, backed by Russia with arms and personnel, employed artillery and Grad rockets, while Ukraine responded with similar firepower to dislodge them. Civilian areas were caught in the crossfire, leading to significant casualties—over 14,000 deaths by early 2022, including civilians, Ukrainian soldiers, and separatist fighters. The narrative of "Ukraine bombing Donbas" is often framed differently depending on perspective: Russian propaganda claims it was unprovoked aggression against Russian-speaking populations, while Ukraine asserts it was a defensive response to Russian-orchestrated separatism.
So, to answer directly: Ukraine’s military operations, including the use of bombing and shelling, began in earnest in April 2014 with the ATO, with notable airstrikes documented by late May 2014. The conflict’s complexity—blending local unrest, Russian intervention, and Ukrainian counteraction—means the "start" depends on how you define "bombing." If you mean sustained military engagement with heavy weapons, mid-2014 is when it became prominent.
This is referred to as a "Color Revolution" and is worth studying. Norm Eisen is a huge part of Color Revolutions around the world as well. The CIA conducted these operations in Central and South America many times last century.
One could make a very strong argument that the first Color Revolution conducted within the borders of the United States was the 2020 Presidential Election. Many of the same exact tactics that our intelligence agencies used worldwide were directed inward in the effort to defeat President Trump once and for all, including all of the court cases, lawfare, and direct assassination attempts on Donald J Trump's life.
It's something we used to see all the time on "other countries." We saw it in those dirty "Banana Republics." And here we are staring it directly in the face, right here in the United States of America.
It's likely the number one reason USAID was really shut down. They were doing much more than money laundering. They were conducting coups around the world and eventually made their move on their own country.
You honestly think Trump knows the enemy is EU/UK/France/NATO (and Ukraine)? Why hand that little dictator midget cokehead piece of shit everything he wants, then? He's getting money, weapons, and intel during a damned ceasefire. I don't get how it helps peace to arm this asshole to the gills and hand him intel on top of it! Seems to me that Trump picked a side and chose Ukraine/EU/NATO/UK/France and will lose the first opportunity we've had in a long time to actually make an alliance with Russia.
There is no ceasefire right now. The only thing I am aware of is that the little dictator midget cokehead piece of shit has agreed to a ceasefire, but Putin has not yet.
The reason POTUS has said he will support said cokehead piece of shit dictator is so that there is an actual deterence to Putin to stop further aggression and get Putin to also agree to a ceasefire. If the money and military was not restored then Trump would have no leverage with Putin, who again, has not agreed to a ceasefire yet, which means there is no ceasefire.
Once there is a ceasefire, then POTUS can work on actually ending the war for good.
Once the war is ended for good, then we will not be spending money and shipping military equipment in because the war will be over.
Keep in mind, all of the money and military support was turned off just a few days ago. This is what FORCED the little dictator midget cokehead piece of shit to agree to a ceasefire. He realized he was hung out to dry as soon as POTUS shut it off. The EU/NATO/UK/France Cabal realized it, too.They are a bunch of useless cucks that want nothing more than to drag the US deeper into the war and perhaps WWIII.
They are all FOOKED without US support. They know it. We know it. Putin knows it. Everyone knows it.
Next up, Trump and Putin figure shit out and then we have an actual ceasefire once Putin agrees to a ceasefire. Until then, it's SNAFU.
The problem with this is that we have handed Ukraine a fucking silver platter filled with goodies. And Rubio flat out says that the only thing Russia can do is accept.
The fact that they're selling this as "Ukraine really wants peace" and now we'll see if Russia does is so ridiculous that it's fucking laughable. Ukraine agreed because our bribe was large enough to convince that little cokehead to agree, which includes money, weapons, and us protecting them. And we just expect Russia to go along with it when we haven't offered them a damned thing except more threats at their door.
If I were Putin, I'd tell Trump to fuck off. He made his choice. Unless we can buy them off, too, I see no reason for Putin to agree, not when the US is giving Ukraine everything they need to stomp Russia into the dirt and calling it "peace".
In all honesty, I feel like this is just setting it up so that we (and all the war mongers in NATO) have cause to start WW3 by attacking Russia. Give them a "deal" that is a huge pile of shit, then call them evil when they refuse to grab a spoon and choke it down.
Putin will not go for it. He has the upper hand on the battle field and they just attacked Moscow.
The attack on Moscow was a last-ditch effort by Ukraine (EU, UK, France, NATO) to try and kill the Saudi Arabia peace talks today held by Rubio, Waltz, and team.
I believe Trump and Putin both know the true enemy in this war is the EU/UK/France/NATO.
This whole thing started because the Eurogroup was trying to add Ukraine to NATO. This is the equivalent of Russia or China setting up shop in Mexico or Canada. We would never allow that.
The EU/UK/France/NATO cabal has proven they cannot support or defend Ukraine without the US. Trump knows this. Trump knows he has all the cards. Putin knows this, too.
First step, make the dickhead in chief snot-faced-fluck-stick Zelenskyy sit down and shut the fluck up.
Then, discuss with Putin how to carve off part of eastern Ukraine for Russia and end the war.
Why does Russia get part of Ukraine? Same reason they got part of Crimea and Georgia. They want a damn buffer from the evil cabal known as NATO.
NATO and the EU are NOT the friends of the US. They want the US to fall more than anyone else.
All my personal opinion only.
Actually it really started in 2014 when Ukraine started bombing the Russians in the Donbas region after the Russians annexed Crimea. BTW - Zelensky didn't become President until 2019, so the skirmishes were under an acting President, likely backed up by Victoria Nuland, USAID, and NED.
NATO wasn't (and still isn't) innocent, but Ukraine wanting to join NATO isn't the only reason for the ongoing war.
Here's what Grok said when I asked when Ukraine started bombing Donbass.
This is referred to as a "Color Revolution" and is worth studying. Norm Eisen is a huge part of Color Revolutions around the world as well. The CIA conducted these operations in Central and South America many times last century.
One could make a very strong argument that the first Color Revolution conducted within the borders of the United States was the 2020 Presidential Election. Many of the same exact tactics that our intelligence agencies used worldwide were directed inward in the effort to defeat President Trump once and for all, including all of the court cases, lawfare, and direct assassination attempts on Donald J Trump's life.
It's something we used to see all the time on "other countries." We saw it in those dirty "Banana Republics." And here we are staring it directly in the face, right here in the United States of America.
It's likely the number one reason USAID was really shut down. They were doing much more than money laundering. They were conducting coups around the world and eventually made their move on their own country.
u/#5genwarfare
You honestly think Trump knows the enemy is EU/UK/France/NATO (and Ukraine)? Why hand that little dictator midget cokehead piece of shit everything he wants, then? He's getting money, weapons, and intel during a damned ceasefire. I don't get how it helps peace to arm this asshole to the gills and hand him intel on top of it! Seems to me that Trump picked a side and chose Ukraine/EU/NATO/UK/France and will lose the first opportunity we've had in a long time to actually make an alliance with Russia.
There is no ceasefire right now. The only thing I am aware of is that the little dictator midget cokehead piece of shit has agreed to a ceasefire, but Putin has not yet.
The reason POTUS has said he will support said cokehead piece of shit dictator is so that there is an actual deterence to Putin to stop further aggression and get Putin to also agree to a ceasefire. If the money and military was not restored then Trump would have no leverage with Putin, who again, has not agreed to a ceasefire yet, which means there is no ceasefire.
Once there is a ceasefire, then POTUS can work on actually ending the war for good.
Once the war is ended for good, then we will not be spending money and shipping military equipment in because the war will be over.
Keep in mind, all of the money and military support was turned off just a few days ago. This is what FORCED the little dictator midget cokehead piece of shit to agree to a ceasefire. He realized he was hung out to dry as soon as POTUS shut it off. The EU/NATO/UK/France Cabal realized it, too.They are a bunch of useless cucks that want nothing more than to drag the US deeper into the war and perhaps WWIII.
They are all FOOKED without US support. They know it. We know it. Putin knows it. Everyone knows it.
Next up, Trump and Putin figure shit out and then we have an actual ceasefire once Putin agrees to a ceasefire. Until then, it's SNAFU.
The problem with this is that we have handed Ukraine a fucking silver platter filled with goodies. And Rubio flat out says that the only thing Russia can do is accept.
The fact that they're selling this as "Ukraine really wants peace" and now we'll see if Russia does is so ridiculous that it's fucking laughable. Ukraine agreed because our bribe was large enough to convince that little cokehead to agree, which includes money, weapons, and us protecting them. And we just expect Russia to go along with it when we haven't offered them a damned thing except more threats at their door.
If I were Putin, I'd tell Trump to fuck off. He made his choice. Unless we can buy them off, too, I see no reason for Putin to agree, not when the US is giving Ukraine everything they need to stomp Russia into the dirt and calling it "peace".
In all honesty, I feel like this is just setting it up so that we (and all the war mongers in NATO) have cause to start WW3 by attacking Russia. Give them a "deal" that is a huge pile of shit, then call them evil when they refuse to grab a spoon and choke it down.