I argued with more than a few people during Trump's first term about the whole idea of him not being presidential. I had several points, including - the MSM won't let him be presidential, look at the bigger picture - he's exposing the assholes in the government, everyone said Obama was presidential and he turned out to be nothing more than a steaming lying pile of poo, most politicians lie thru their teeth when they appear dignified and most people can't see thru it, look at what he is doing and figure out why, etc.

Yeah, some of those comments didn't go over too well, but if they couldn't pick up what I was putting down, they were still forced to defend the MSM talking points and that wasn't what they wanted to be doing.