Is anything safe forever? Is anything indestructible? The oldest surface soil is a million years old. The whole face of the earth has been wiped clean time and time again. The hoover dam won't even finish curing into concrete fully for centuries. Expected to stand for millennia if the only outside force it faces is that river.
I spend a lot of time by the river, going to the parks...I think there's more to it than that. these rivers are not supposed to be 'confined', and they will eventually 'break free', that's how it works.
you can not tell Great Rivers 'what to do'...we have to think about nature, can't abuse it.
some even predicted the dams failing during our last great flood, would wipe out the midwest farmland, etc.
Ghengis Kahn did have a river rerouted over his grave in the 1200s. Only Mongols can tell rivers what to do?
The Hoover dam is not in the Midwest. Not all dams are equal. When Hoover breaks, if human civilization lasts that long, it will be half the age of agriculture. We're certainly telling it "make a lake right here" and its doing it.
Rivers Rerouted by Humans:
1️⃣ Chicago River (USA)
Year: 1900
What: Reversed flow away from Lake Michigan using canals to prevent sewage contamination of drinking water.
2️⃣ Yellow River (China)
Rerouted multiple times over millennia by humans (dikes, canals) and floods, including major diversion for irrigation during Ming and Qing dynasties.
3️⃣ Colorado River (USA/Mexico)
Diverted heavily for irrigation and urban use (Hoover Dam, All-American Canal, etc.), resulting in the river rarely reaching the Gulf of California.
4️⃣ Amu Darya & Syr Darya (Central Asia)
Heavily diverted during Soviet projects (1960s) to irrigate cotton fields, leading to the shrinkage of the Aral Sea.
5️⃣ Kuningan River (India)
Diverted for irrigation during various periods in India’s ancient and medieval history.
6️⃣ Los Angeles River (USA)
Channelized and partially rerouted in the 1930s to prevent flooding.
7️⃣ Murray River (Australia)
Rerouted and regulated with dams, weirs, and channels for irrigation and water supply.
8️⃣ Nile River (Egypt)
Course not completely changed, but massively controlled by human projects (Aswan High Dam, canals) to regulate flooding and irrigation.
9️⃣ Indus River (Pakistan/India)
Extensive canal systems (Indus Basin Irrigation System) divert significant flow for agriculture.
10️⃣ Rhone River (France)
Rerouted in sections for navigation and hydroelectric projects.
11️⃣ Rhine River (Germany/Netherlands)
Straightened and rerouted in sections for flood control and navigation (19th-century Tulla rectification).
12️⃣ Ganges River (India)
Farakka Barrage (1975) altered flow between India and Bangladesh to manage siltation and water distribution.
13️⃣ Sacramento River (USA)
Rerouted in parts through the Sacramento River Flood Control Project.
14️⃣ Columbia River (USA/Canada)
Controlled and rerouted with dams (Grand Coulee, etc.) altering natural flow for power and irrigation.
15️⃣ South Fork of the American River (USA)
Diverted during the California Gold Rush for hydraulic mining.
16️⃣ Lena River (Russia)
Sections controlled for seasonal water management.
I'm not sure if those are the best examples to make your point. From what I know, many want to 'escape' from such places.
if you had some Garden of Eden like locations to show me, then I'd consider your ideas, but I don't think there's a place where human modifications have made it better for ALL involved.
Is anything safe forever? Is anything indestructible? The oldest surface soil is a million years old. The whole face of the earth has been wiped clean time and time again. The hoover dam won't even finish curing into concrete fully for centuries. Expected to stand for millennia if the only outside force it faces is that river.
I spend a lot of time by the river, going to the parks...I think there's more to it than that. these rivers are not supposed to be 'confined', and they will eventually 'break free', that's how it works.
you can not tell Great Rivers 'what to do'...we have to think about nature, can't abuse it.
some even predicted the dams failing during our last great flood, would wipe out the midwest farmland, etc.
Ghengis Kahn did have a river rerouted over his grave in the 1200s. Only Mongols can tell rivers what to do?
The Hoover dam is not in the Midwest. Not all dams are equal. When Hoover breaks, if human civilization lasts that long, it will be half the age of agriculture. We're certainly telling it "make a lake right here" and its doing it.
Rivers Rerouted by Humans:
1️⃣ Chicago River (USA)
Year: 1900
What: Reversed flow away from Lake Michigan using canals to prevent sewage contamination of drinking water.
2️⃣ Yellow River (China)
Rerouted multiple times over millennia by humans (dikes, canals) and floods, including major diversion for irrigation during Ming and Qing dynasties.
3️⃣ Colorado River (USA/Mexico)
Diverted heavily for irrigation and urban use (Hoover Dam, All-American Canal, etc.), resulting in the river rarely reaching the Gulf of California.
4️⃣ Amu Darya & Syr Darya (Central Asia)
Heavily diverted during Soviet projects (1960s) to irrigate cotton fields, leading to the shrinkage of the Aral Sea.
5️⃣ Kuningan River (India)
Diverted for irrigation during various periods in India’s ancient and medieval history.
6️⃣ Los Angeles River (USA)
Channelized and partially rerouted in the 1930s to prevent flooding.
7️⃣ Murray River (Australia)
Rerouted and regulated with dams, weirs, and channels for irrigation and water supply.
8️⃣ Nile River (Egypt)
Course not completely changed, but massively controlled by human projects (Aswan High Dam, canals) to regulate flooding and irrigation.
9️⃣ Indus River (Pakistan/India)
Extensive canal systems (Indus Basin Irrigation System) divert significant flow for agriculture.
10️⃣ Rhone River (France)
Rerouted in sections for navigation and hydroelectric projects.
11️⃣ Rhine River (Germany/Netherlands)
Straightened and rerouted in sections for flood control and navigation (19th-century Tulla rectification).
12️⃣ Ganges River (India)
Farakka Barrage (1975) altered flow between India and Bangladesh to manage siltation and water distribution.
13️⃣ Sacramento River (USA)
Rerouted in parts through the Sacramento River Flood Control Project.
14️⃣ Columbia River (USA/Canada)
Controlled and rerouted with dams (Grand Coulee, etc.) altering natural flow for power and irrigation.
15️⃣ South Fork of the American River (USA)
Diverted during the California Gold Rush for hydraulic mining.
16️⃣ Lena River (Russia)
Sections controlled for seasonal water management.
I'm not sure if those are the best examples to make your point. From what I know, many want to 'escape' from such places.
if you had some Garden of Eden like locations to show me, then I'd consider your ideas, but I don't think there's a place where human modifications have made it better for ALL involved.
do you hunt & fish?