TY for engaging. I understand the first point, but let's change the language to something that's appropriately defined. It's a deceptive statement. When will the sin happen? Being born a sinner is a different statement than we all have a propensity to sin after birth.
Yes, God is uplifting, but first we should call a newborn baby a sinner. Beat me down so I can lift you up? I have a long history in the church and, to me, it's about control. God is different than the church (little c intended).
You are correct as nothing is 100%, but the majority was lies, is lies, and will continue for generations unless we the people take our world back. ❤️
I appreciate the conversation, Fren. I so enjoy being a grandparent. I look back and wonder how I ever did everything. So glad to be off that hamster wheel.
TY for engaging. I understand the first point, but let's change the language to something that's appropriately defined. It's a deceptive statement. When will the sin happen? Being born a sinner is a different statement than we all have a propensity to sin after birth.
Yes, God is uplifting, but first we should call a newborn baby a sinner. Beat me down so I can lift you up? I have a long history in the church and, to me, it's about control. God is different than the church (little c intended).
You are correct as nothing is 100%, but the majority was lies, is lies, and will continue for generations unless we the people take our world back. ❤️
I appreciate the conversation, Fren. I so enjoy being a grandparent. I look back and wonder how I ever did everything. So glad to be off that hamster wheel.
May God bless you and yours.
People are born idiots, we have to recognize this to be able to something about it. No fault of your own but your cross to bear. Sin is much the same.
As for control yeah many churches lean heavy that way. Which were you in if i may ask?
And the lies wont stop but we can get better at seeing them
Well Fren, we disagree. I don't believe any baby is born a sinner OR an idiot.
Born means to come into existence. I believe when they are born it's a clean slate.
What do babies know when they're born?