So, Trump is going to fight tooth and nail against release suddenly after saying for years he wanted it all released and he'd be the one to release it and arrest the pedos. Now he says get over it and move on.
Then democrats push so hard the files come out, and they get to claim a win.
Then Trump comes back and says I wanted it out all along, I was just ordering Mike Johnson to block all efforts of discussion as a way to motivate Democrats who have been demanding the release of the files for six years now because they think my name is on them ...
I don't think it's that at all. I think Trump and everyone on his team went too far. They saw an opportunity and they capitalized on it without giving a shit what was or wasn't in the files. The stuff that's left in the files is probably boring procedural stuff which for all of us will be even worse that there being nothing left in the files at all.
Trump can't come out now and say, Nope, nothing left in there. No one would believe him. And he can't say, I pushed this case insanely hard because it gave me a ton of extra votes from people who were on the fence or whatever. Now, all he can do is hope people forget about it and move on so he doesn't disappoint all of his voters or worse turn us against him by admitting he straight up lied for years about having all the names and needing to be back in the white house to be able to release them.
I think the most boring, obvious, answer is probably the correct one. If there was a big list that fucked over all the idiot libs, it would've been released before the 2020 election or day one in 2024. If Trump was on the list, Biden would've leaked it at some point.
So, there's no real list or it never emerged and Trump knows there isn't a chance in hell that anyone who ever owned a MAGA hat will take that as an answer after almost a decade of being told the liberals are pedophiles and the evidence was sitting on the FBI directors desk.
Trump didn't say stop talking about Epstein until AFTER blondi came out and said that there was no list and the case was over and everyone lost their shit. On June 18 Trump said he was excited about releasing the full Epstein list ASAP. That's not even 30 days ago.
Honestly I find the idea that Trump was simply mistaken even more far fetched than him being an Epstein client.
Trump doesn't make mistakes, or act randomly. It's essential to recognise that he's playing a level of 5D chess that the rest of us can barely follow, let alone understand. Otherwise we'd be taken for fools.
Integral to Trump's 2024 campaign was a promise to release the files. Pat Bondi confirmed she possessed them earlier this year. If there was no list, why is Ghislane Maxwell in prison?
Therefore the files a) exists and b) contains relevent names and c) are being withheld in a calculated manner and d) it is not self preservation because... duh
I agree. I don’t understand why this has to be turned into something implausibly complicated. Rather than engineer an elaborate plot to force the democrats to endorse the release of the files (that supposedly name them), he could just . . . release the files right now, today? He could also have released them in 2019.
Absolutely. Soooo, the theory is he's making himself look like a pedophile while trying to force people who already think he is a pedophile to beg for the release of files they have been asking for now since 2019?
That is beyond dumb. I've read smarter takes on CNN.
Fair, but I’m not sure if it’s as dumb as “even though he campaigned on promising to release it, he is going to wait until the democrats (who are named in the files) want him to release it.”
Edit: re-reading your comment it seems that you are agreeing with me
I don’t know. Maybe there’s some larger issue that none of us are aware of that is in the files. Maybe we have misunderstood the entire Epstein issue. But “because he wants the democrats to want him to release it” isn’t the answer.
With all due respect, that is a dumb take.
So, Trump is going to fight tooth and nail against release suddenly after saying for years he wanted it all released and he'd be the one to release it and arrest the pedos. Now he says get over it and move on.
Then democrats push so hard the files come out, and they get to claim a win.
Then Trump comes back and says I wanted it out all along, I was just ordering Mike Johnson to block all efforts of discussion as a way to motivate Democrats who have been demanding the release of the files for six years now because they think my name is on them ...
That's some smooth brain thinking.
Sure, but what other explanation could there be for the files not being released?
Unless you buy the ridiculous idea that Trump is named in the files, and is covering his own backside, I don't see another explanation.
I don't think it's that at all. I think Trump and everyone on his team went too far. They saw an opportunity and they capitalized on it without giving a shit what was or wasn't in the files. The stuff that's left in the files is probably boring procedural stuff which for all of us will be even worse that there being nothing left in the files at all.
Trump can't come out now and say, Nope, nothing left in there. No one would believe him. And he can't say, I pushed this case insanely hard because it gave me a ton of extra votes from people who were on the fence or whatever. Now, all he can do is hope people forget about it and move on so he doesn't disappoint all of his voters or worse turn us against him by admitting he straight up lied for years about having all the names and needing to be back in the white house to be able to release them.
I think the most boring, obvious, answer is probably the correct one. If there was a big list that fucked over all the idiot libs, it would've been released before the 2020 election or day one in 2024. If Trump was on the list, Biden would've leaked it at some point.
So, there's no real list or it never emerged and Trump knows there isn't a chance in hell that anyone who ever owned a MAGA hat will take that as an answer after almost a decade of being told the liberals are pedophiles and the evidence was sitting on the FBI directors desk.
Trump didn't say stop talking about Epstein until AFTER blondi came out and said that there was no list and the case was over and everyone lost their shit. On June 18 Trump said he was excited about releasing the full Epstein list ASAP. That's not even 30 days ago.
Honestly I find the idea that Trump was simply mistaken even more far fetched than him being an Epstein client.
Trump doesn't make mistakes, or act randomly. It's essential to recognise that he's playing a level of 5D chess that the rest of us can barely follow, let alone understand. Otherwise we'd be taken for fools.
Integral to Trump's 2024 campaign was a promise to release the files. Pat Bondi confirmed she possessed them earlier this year. If there was no list, why is Ghislane Maxwell in prison?
Therefore the files a) exists and b) contains relevent names and c) are being withheld in a calculated manner and d) it is not self preservation because... duh
Every human being, past, present, and future (save one), makes mistakes.
You really need to warm up and do some stretches before reaching like that, you don't want to pull a muscle.
Vince Russo would have killed for that manuscript 😂
I agree. I don’t understand why this has to be turned into something implausibly complicated. Rather than engineer an elaborate plot to force the democrats to endorse the release of the files (that supposedly name them), he could just . . . release the files right now, today? He could also have released them in 2019.
Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
Absolutely. Soooo, the theory is he's making himself look like a pedophile while trying to force people who already think he is a pedophile to beg for the release of files they have been asking for now since 2019?
That is beyond dumb. I've read smarter takes on CNN.
Fair, but I’m not sure if it’s as dumb as “even though he campaigned on promising to release it, he is going to wait until the democrats (who are named in the files) want him to release it.”
Edit: re-reading your comment it seems that you are agreeing with me
The reason it's more complicated is because he hasn't just done that. That speaks for itself.
Why do you think he hasn't released the files?
I don’t know. Maybe there’s some larger issue that none of us are aware of that is in the files. Maybe we have misunderstood the entire Epstein issue. But “because he wants the democrats to want him to release it” isn’t the answer.
It's not very convincing is it?
As far as I can see, the options are:
It's misdirection and strategy, broadly as I suggested.
Trump is a prolific paedophile and the whole "my enemies are pedophiles" thing is just projection
There is no explanation, or we can't even think of one, and Epstein is no big deal anyway.
I know what I find easiest to believe