You're right, there were various ways of getting here. The Viet Nam war made no sense, I thought anyone could see that after all the press the doubters were given. We all knew how evil the C_A was. They tortured people like they were out of the Middle Ages. It was a disgrace. The build up to the Iraq war (911 attackers said to be Arabs, so we invade Iraq) was so contrived and fake. I held out hope that our country was still basically good due to freedom. Podesta's emails were the last straw. I was so ready for Q!