All of those quotes from Jesus are, I suggest, misunderstood in full context. For example, who is "the Father?" Is it YHWH? Is it the Source of All Things? Are you sure those are the same thing? Have you looked at the evidence?
That's the view of the Materialist e.i. There is nothing beyond the physical reality which is a denial of God's existence who is outside time, space & matter. (The physical universe)
Everything in your response seems to so completely miss everything I was saying that I don't even know how to address your response. I suggest you re-read it.
Hint: ALL phenomena are Natural, including those things that we call "spiritual." Material, Spiritual, ALL are real phenomena. Not because "it's what I want." It's because THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD.
It seems to me that you are not understanding what I am trying to do. I am trying to show you how your definition (which you reiterated) could create such a misunderstanding, and who made the belief system, by redefining the words, that caused it.
All of those quotes from Jesus are, I suggest, misunderstood in full context. For example, who is "the Father?" Is it YHWH? Is it the Source of All Things? Are you sure those are the same thing? Have you looked at the evidence?
Everything in your response seems to so completely miss everything I was saying that I don't even know how to address your response. I suggest you re-read it.
Hint: ALL phenomena are Natural, including those things that we call "spiritual." Material, Spiritual, ALL are real phenomena. Not because "it's what I want." It's because THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD.
It seems to me that you are not understanding what I am trying to do. I am trying to show you how your definition (which you reiterated) could create such a misunderstanding, and who made the belief system, by redefining the words, that caused it.