BIBLE TIME: Charlie's murder was a violation of God's divine order, not Erika Kirk's... She sinned against God by forgiving him without his repentence. No theologian would have agreed with the outrageous suggestion that we unconditionally forgive those who abuse and murder our family members.
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Bad take my dude. I left an extensive exegesis on this as a top level comment I would encourage you to read.
Then in that case you also believe that Trump's comments at the funeral we're also heretical.
The forgiveness is real. But so are the upcoming retributions to the Deep state. Forgiving them will only lead to more abuses and the bible is absolutely full from top to bottom with retribution.
If you had read the response I pointed to you would have seen that I make the clear biblical distinction between the categories of forgiveness and justice.
How about you go reply there AFTER you read it.
As for what Trump said you'll need to be specific. I was there and I didn't hear any "heretical" positions come out of his mouth. I heard some things that were unchristian but that's a different category.
I think you are using words you don't understand...
Heretical refers to beliefs or teachings that fundamentally contradict core Christian doctrine - such as denying the Trinity, rejecting Christ's divinity, or teaching that salvation comes through works alone rather than grace. Heresy is specifically about doctrinal error that threatens the foundation of Christian faith.
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Unchristian/Unchristlike refers to behavior or attitudes that contradict Christian values and teachings - things like being unloving, dishonest, greedy, or cruel. These are moral failings that go against the spirit of Christianity, but they're typically seen as human weaknesses that can be repented of and corrected.
If you can't basic terminology right do you think you can really go toe to toe with my on deeper exegesis? This is my field of study. I welcome the challenge though. Fire away. (Below the actual top level comment I made)
I posted this link to drive discussion here on GAW, not to start a pissing match with you. Trump's comments at the funeral run counter to simply blindly forgiving our opponents/oppressors and stand in stark contrast to Erika Kirk's sentiments. I am correct in stating that Trump's comments were 'heretical' to your point (i.e., you could likely legitimately send to him what you just did to me). Every single one of us knows that Trump sees himself as God's hand of earthly retribution.
We do however appreciate your epic contribution to this discussion.
Good on you, catsfive.
Trying to frame this is a pissing contest isa bit intellectually dishonest. I'm not having a pissing contest, this is a theological discussion which is encouraged throughout scripture.
Trump's comments are not christ-like in that particular regard, that does not equate to heresy. Again... 2 distinct categories.
As far as Trump seeing himself as God's hand of retribution.... you're so close....
Scripture tells us that governing authorities are appointed by God as his earthly tools of Justice:
Romans 13:3–4 (NASB 1995) "For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil."
Psalm 82:1–4 (NASB 1995) "God takes His stand in His own congregation; He judges in the midst of the rulers. How long will you judge unjustly And show partiality to the wicked? Selah. Vindicate the weak and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and destitute. Rescue the weak and needy; Save them from the hand of the wicked."
1 Peter 2:13–14 (NASB 1995) "Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human institution, whether to a king as the one in authority, or to governors as sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and the praise of those who do right."
I appreciate your work here and contributions as well sir thank you.