I know several people that have taken the shots and are fine, while others have been injured to varying degrees. It is a mixed bag. Personally, I don't honestly think Trump understands it. Science is not his strong suit. It appears to me that he has to rely on counsel from others regarding medical issues and he is just as confused about the conflicting reports, as are others. I get it. One side says they are fine, while another side says stop the presses. I also don't get the feeling that RFK has been able to sway him. Trump is a business man and he does not want to make any rash moves because he is uncertain and not thoroughly convinced - regardless of how much we would love to see these people at the end of a rope. When Trump made that agreement with Pfizer, RFK didn't look too happy. His face said it all. Trump has caved to Pfizer before.
Sorry to hear about all your losses. I have been lucky. Many of my family refused to get vaxxed. Those that did, seem to be fine with the exception of one.
When Covid hit, I retired from clinical practice because I could. I didn't want to be forced to get jabbed since I knew that was coming. Previously, I had to fight like hell just to be able to refuse flu vaxxines. Much of the info that was leaking out when this all started scared the crap out of me. The tech that was in the pipeline I knew was going to come into play and I wasn't wrong. Shedding was a whole other issue that did not look good. My first responsibility was to take care of my own family. I knew if I stayed to fight the battle I would probably end up losing my license and having a negative review with the Board. So, I left with my license intact retaining the possibility of jumping back in when the dust settled, probably in some another venue other than clinical practice.
My former colleagues have all been pretty closed mouthed about what they have seen in their practices. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. As far as I know, they didn't seem to be adversely affected themselves. Then again, they sure as hell wouldn't tell me if they were. They always kept me at arms length to begin with because of my stance on vaxxines for years. They didn't want to hear I told you so. I did know one guy that suddenly retired out of the blue. Never did find out what happened. Quickly sold his practice overnight and disappeared. His patients were all left in the lurch. For somebody that was an OD I thought he would have been more open to alternative ideas, but he ended up being just like the rest of them - more mainstream.
I have a friend that works at our local ME's office and she told me about the flood of bodies that were going through their system like you mentioned. The biggest majority however, never make it to the ME because, as you stated, they are written off at the hospital - case closed. So you are right, they know something is terribly wrong but for a variety of reasons, choose not to talk about it. That anecdotal information however, is not sufficient to change that ship's course. There are just too many vested interests involved - with billions on the line. Underlings are told to keep quiet - so they do.
I honestly don't think Trump really knows what to think. He is waiting for more concrete evidence one way or the other. There is so much at stake no matter which direction he goes with it. Then again, it really is not up to him. The CDC and the FDA have to spearhead this work. RFK is still trying to clean that snake pit out and it has not been easy. Trying to get the appropriate studies done is another issue. It all takes time. I worked in research for almost a decade. I know how that process works. It will not be done overnight. The system is manipulated and corrupt from the top down. So I don't fault Trump for not knowing what to do with all this. There is just too much conflicting information - muddy waters are deliberately orchestrated.
You should see what's happening in China. People have been dropping like flies ever since the scamdemic hit. It hasn't stopped or slowed down. They had their own brand of vaxxine. I don't think it was mRNA, but it was still based on the same sequence that all the others were made from, including the vector based vaxxines. Even with the tight censorship over there, people are blaming the shots and whatever was released. I would take a rough guess at over 200 million people have died in the last 5 years - and that is a conservative estimate. Whole villages and towns are void of people and no one seems to know where they went. Busy cities now are almost ghost towns. Like you, everyone there knows several people that suddenly dropped or died of cancers of all ages - even kids. It's like here, but only worse with the government coverup. I am sure it is the same everywhere. People at the top are all trying to cover their own asteroids. They did take their vaxxine off the market and then quietly destroyed all the records. I heard they executed the guy that headed up the company that produced the poison. They are probably hoping that people will just move on and focus on other more pressing issues. The whole thing is such a mess.
Thanks for the response and sorry again about your losses. That really sucks.
I don't know what gets into some people. They have their own little box of a mind and never venture out of it. It seems like they just want to argue with anyone that does not line up with their view of the world. Being disrespectful to others is unacceptable. It is as though they can't have a respectful difference of opinion with another person. Real communication these days has become a dying skill. Anonymous keyboarding gives some people license to just vomit out whatever spills off the top of their heads. I am trying to be somewhat polite here. Lol.
Don't let the trolls get you down. I like your posts. You put some effort and time into them and I want to acknowledge that. So, you are appreciated even if others don't get it. This forum is not what it used to be. I think many, like myself, just lurk in the background just to see which way the wind is blowing. I will chime in if I think I have something constructive to contribute. Otherwise, I don't have the compunction to have my voice heard.
Thank you for the compliment and your response fren. You have a great day too!
What you said would make sense to normies but knowing Q and plan it would mean something else when POTUS works with Pfizer. 5D chess and all.
From a business and efficiency standpoint, why destroy Pfizer when they already have all the $ & resources, and why not just let white hats take over instead (behind the scene deal like I could throw you all in prison but instead go quietly and let the white hats run your company) and they can begin to make Real medicines or produce medbeds and such that would actually heal people. Just a thought..
Well, as time has passed, I am less inclined to believe in a huge "plan." I do think there are elements of it, but some big master plan where some small group of people are behind the scenes in absolute and complete control moving everyone around like it's some kind of master strategy game, for me, is beyond reality because it would place those in control on the level with the Creator. For me, that is not a possibility because only God is in total control and in Him alone do I put my trust.
So, we can respectfully agree to disagree. I thank you for your input because I have no doubt that you are not alone in believing this, so it is a position that must to taken into consideration. I am open to consider all alternative viewpoints on the table.
Regeneron and hydroxychloroquin is the combo he takes to stay well during flu season. He is not taking mRNA versions of any flu shot .
As for any seeming "mixed message" I feel confused too.
Sometimes you do the best you can in a battle and move on to the next one. That doesn't mean they get a pass. But we have a plan and we need to stick to it.
Patton didnt keep talking about Kasserine pass in the middle of ww2....
But does he know? I really don't think so. He has even stated that he wants the studies done to settle this issue. He is undecided between the two sides that have his ear. Both sides are beating their drums pretty loud. He is receiving a tremendous amount of pressure from vested interests. It can't be easy trying to navigate that.
Trump is a flawed human being just like the rest of us. He shines when it comes to geopolitical strategy and business. Medical science, not so much. He must rely on the council of others that are supposed to know. So far, he has not seen what he needs to make a decision one way or the other. So, he choses to keep the status quo for now while he has more pressing issues to address.
RFK needs to get those studies done. That is not going to be easy and it will take time because major studies like that have never really been done to the level that is necessary to basically bring down that entire industry - and it will. Additionally, it is going to take more than just a couple of studies to overturn decades of corrupt manipulation of the system. So our side has its work cut out for us.
Pharma and their cheerleaders in public health have convinced Trump that kids especially are going to die if he upsets that apple cart. Knowing what we do about Trump, there is no way he could live with that. I know, because that is the big lie they tell everyone - especially in health care. He doesn't know that the data was all manipulated. Those of us in that wheelhouse know how to read the studies and can see it if you really look for it. But they have even managed to fool some pretty smart medical people with that manipulation. So how can the non medical layperson even begin to make sense out of it? To someone outside that wheelhouse, it is not so obvious. I am not faulting Trump. Like so many others, he doesn't know what to think. So in the mean time, we will just have to wait until more concrete information presents itself and he can make a more informed decision. But at least the ball has started to move in our direction for a change with RFK pushing it.
I know several people that have taken the shots and are fine, while others have been injured to varying degrees. It is a mixed bag. Personally, I don't honestly think Trump understands it. Science is not his strong suit. It appears to me that he has to rely on counsel from others regarding medical issues and he is just as confused about the conflicting reports, as are others. I get it. One side says they are fine, while another side says stop the presses. I also don't get the feeling that RFK has been able to sway him. Trump is a business man and he does not want to make any rash moves because he is uncertain and not thoroughly convinced - regardless of how much we would love to see these people at the end of a rope. When Trump made that agreement with Pfizer, RFK didn't look too happy. His face said it all. Trump has caved to Pfizer before.
Sorry to hear about all your losses. I have been lucky. Many of my family refused to get vaxxed. Those that did, seem to be fine with the exception of one.
When Covid hit, I retired from clinical practice because I could. I didn't want to be forced to get jabbed since I knew that was coming. Previously, I had to fight like hell just to be able to refuse flu vaxxines. Much of the info that was leaking out when this all started scared the crap out of me. The tech that was in the pipeline I knew was going to come into play and I wasn't wrong. Shedding was a whole other issue that did not look good. My first responsibility was to take care of my own family. I knew if I stayed to fight the battle I would probably end up losing my license and having a negative review with the Board. So, I left with my license intact retaining the possibility of jumping back in when the dust settled, probably in some another venue other than clinical practice.
My former colleagues have all been pretty closed mouthed about what they have seen in their practices. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. As far as I know, they didn't seem to be adversely affected themselves. Then again, they sure as hell wouldn't tell me if they were. They always kept me at arms length to begin with because of my stance on vaxxines for years. They didn't want to hear I told you so. I did know one guy that suddenly retired out of the blue. Never did find out what happened. Quickly sold his practice overnight and disappeared. His patients were all left in the lurch. For somebody that was an OD I thought he would have been more open to alternative ideas, but he ended up being just like the rest of them - more mainstream.
I have a friend that works at our local ME's office and she told me about the flood of bodies that were going through their system like you mentioned. The biggest majority however, never make it to the ME because, as you stated, they are written off at the hospital - case closed. So you are right, they know something is terribly wrong but for a variety of reasons, choose not to talk about it. That anecdotal information however, is not sufficient to change that ship's course. There are just too many vested interests involved - with billions on the line. Underlings are told to keep quiet - so they do.
I honestly don't think Trump really knows what to think. He is waiting for more concrete evidence one way or the other. There is so much at stake no matter which direction he goes with it. Then again, it really is not up to him. The CDC and the FDA have to spearhead this work. RFK is still trying to clean that snake pit out and it has not been easy. Trying to get the appropriate studies done is another issue. It all takes time. I worked in research for almost a decade. I know how that process works. It will not be done overnight. The system is manipulated and corrupt from the top down. So I don't fault Trump for not knowing what to do with all this. There is just too much conflicting information - muddy waters are deliberately orchestrated.
You should see what's happening in China. People have been dropping like flies ever since the scamdemic hit. It hasn't stopped or slowed down. They had their own brand of vaxxine. I don't think it was mRNA, but it was still based on the same sequence that all the others were made from, including the vector based vaxxines. Even with the tight censorship over there, people are blaming the shots and whatever was released. I would take a rough guess at over 200 million people have died in the last 5 years - and that is a conservative estimate. Whole villages and towns are void of people and no one seems to know where they went. Busy cities now are almost ghost towns. Like you, everyone there knows several people that suddenly dropped or died of cancers of all ages - even kids. It's like here, but only worse with the government coverup. I am sure it is the same everywhere. People at the top are all trying to cover their own asteroids. They did take their vaxxine off the market and then quietly destroyed all the records. I heard they executed the guy that headed up the company that produced the poison. They are probably hoping that people will just move on and focus on other more pressing issues. The whole thing is such a mess.
Thanks for the response and sorry again about your losses. That really sucks.
Back at you fren - and I mean that.
I don't know what gets into some people. They have their own little box of a mind and never venture out of it. It seems like they just want to argue with anyone that does not line up with their view of the world. Being disrespectful to others is unacceptable. It is as though they can't have a respectful difference of opinion with another person. Real communication these days has become a dying skill. Anonymous keyboarding gives some people license to just vomit out whatever spills off the top of their heads. I am trying to be somewhat polite here. Lol.
Don't let the trolls get you down. I like your posts. You put some effort and time into them and I want to acknowledge that. So, you are appreciated even if others don't get it. This forum is not what it used to be. I think many, like myself, just lurk in the background just to see which way the wind is blowing. I will chime in if I think I have something constructive to contribute. Otherwise, I don't have the compunction to have my voice heard.
Thank you for the compliment and your response fren. You have a great day too!
What you said would make sense to normies but knowing Q and plan it would mean something else when POTUS works with Pfizer. 5D chess and all.
From a business and efficiency standpoint, why destroy Pfizer when they already have all the $ & resources, and why not just let white hats take over instead (behind the scene deal like I could throw you all in prison but instead go quietly and let the white hats run your company) and they can begin to make Real medicines or produce medbeds and such that would actually heal people. Just a thought..
Well, as time has passed, I am less inclined to believe in a huge "plan." I do think there are elements of it, but some big master plan where some small group of people are behind the scenes in absolute and complete control moving everyone around like it's some kind of master strategy game, for me, is beyond reality because it would place those in control on the level with the Creator. For me, that is not a possibility because only God is in total control and in Him alone do I put my trust.
So, we can respectfully agree to disagree. I thank you for your input because I have no doubt that you are not alone in believing this, so it is a position that must to taken into consideration. I am open to consider all alternative viewpoints on the table.
Regeneron and hydroxychloroquin is the combo he takes to stay well during flu season. He is not taking mRNA versions of any flu shot . As for any seeming "mixed message" I feel confused too.
Trump started Operation warp speed which rushed the vaccines to market which ended the lockdown.
The deep state added ingredients like graphene oxide and MRNA spike proteins which harmed society.
If we were to assume that the guilty parties that created the death shots were going to be brought to justice one day soon, who would be arrested?
The guilty parties will blame Trump because operation warp speed rushed the vaccines to market.
Trump's defense, "How can I be guilty? I was just injected with one 2 days ago!"
Its a comm. We fix the country before we address this issue.
We need to focus on current battles,not worrying about past battles.
We want to win the war.
Sometimes you do the best you can in a battle and move on to the next one. That doesn't mean they get a pass. But we have a plan and we need to stick to it.
Patton didnt keep talking about Kasserine pass in the middle of ww2....
Patton talked to the Germans after the end of the war,and learned he and us had been lied to.
He noticed to late.
We are playing for all the marbles,I'll worry about the ones that rolled under the couch latter. It seams hard,but war is hell.
But does he know? I really don't think so. He has even stated that he wants the studies done to settle this issue. He is undecided between the two sides that have his ear. Both sides are beating their drums pretty loud. He is receiving a tremendous amount of pressure from vested interests. It can't be easy trying to navigate that.
Trump is a flawed human being just like the rest of us. He shines when it comes to geopolitical strategy and business. Medical science, not so much. He must rely on the council of others that are supposed to know. So far, he has not seen what he needs to make a decision one way or the other. So, he choses to keep the status quo for now while he has more pressing issues to address.
RFK needs to get those studies done. That is not going to be easy and it will take time because major studies like that have never really been done to the level that is necessary to basically bring down that entire industry - and it will. Additionally, it is going to take more than just a couple of studies to overturn decades of corrupt manipulation of the system. So our side has its work cut out for us.
Pharma and their cheerleaders in public health have convinced Trump that kids especially are going to die if he upsets that apple cart. Knowing what we do about Trump, there is no way he could live with that. I know, because that is the big lie they tell everyone - especially in health care. He doesn't know that the data was all manipulated. Those of us in that wheelhouse know how to read the studies and can see it if you really look for it. But they have even managed to fool some pretty smart medical people with that manipulation. So how can the non medical layperson even begin to make sense out of it? To someone outside that wheelhouse, it is not so obvious. I am not faulting Trump. Like so many others, he doesn't know what to think. So in the mean time, we will just have to wait until more concrete information presents itself and he can make a more informed decision. But at least the ball has started to move in our direction for a change with RFK pushing it.