"Viktor has been very strong and other European Leaders could learn from him. He hasn't let one person into his county and Hungary doesn't have the problems that the other Countries have."
The Senate implemented a rule to end debate (cloture) in 1917, which, at the time, required a two-thirds vote. The modern practice of a filibuster emerged unintentionally in 1805 when a rule allowing a simple majority to cut off debate was removed from the Senate rules.
1805: The filibuster originated by mistake after the rule for a "previous question" (a motion to end debate) was removed from the Senate's rules at the suggestion of Vice President Aaron Burr.
1917: The first rule to allow a supermajority to end a filibuster was adopted, which required a two-thirds vote. This rule is known as cloture.
1975: The threshold for cloture was lowered to a three-fifths vote (60 out of 100 senators).
The U.S. Constitution does not mention the Senate filibuster, and it was not part of the original plan for the Senate. Instead, the filibuster is a procedural tactic developed through the Senate's power to make its own rules, a power granted by Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution. This has allowed for a tradition of extended debate, which was eventually codified with the adoption of the cloture rule, requiring a supermajority to end debate.
No mention in the Constitution: The Constitution does not specify the filibuster, which is a rule created by the Senate itself.
Based on the Senate's rule-making power: Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution states, "Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings". This has allowed the Senate to develop the filibuster and, later, the cloture rule to limit extended debate.
Evolution of the rule: The ability to overcome a filibuster (cloture) was formally adopted in 1917, requiring a two-thirds vote. In 1975, the threshold was lowered to three-fifths of all senators (60 out of 100).
Modern practice: Today, a filibuster doesn't always require a marathon speech; it is often used when a senator or group of senators informs the leadership that they will block a vote, forcing the Senate to have 60 votes to overcome the obstacle and proceed to a final vote.
In 1805, Vice President Aaron Burr recommended the Senate eliminate the "previous question" motion, which was a rule that allowed a simple majority to end debate. This action, made with the intention of cleaning up the rulebook, inadvertently created the loophole for the filibuster by removing the only mechanism to end debate by a majority vote. The Senate removed the motion from its rules in 1806, a move that a few decades later allowed minority senators to use prolonged speeches to indefinitely delay or block legislation.
The "previous question" motion: This was a rule that allowed a simple majority to vote to end a debate and proceed to a vote.
Burr's recommendation: At Burr's suggestion, the Senate voted to remove this motion, believing it was an unnecessary procedural rule.
The consequence: By eliminating the ability to end debate with a simple majority, the Senate opened the door for a single senator or a small group of senators to delay legislation indefinitely through extended speeches.
The first filibuster: The first actual filibuster, or the use of this tactic to obstruct debate, didn't occur until 1837 when Whig senators used it to block a resolution against President Andrew Jackson.
The creation of cloture: It wasn't until 1917 that the Senate created the cloture rule, which requires a two-thirds vote to end debate, as a way to combat the filibuster.
VP Aaron Burr shot and killed Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton in a duel on July 11, 1804. It was reportedly about Hamilton smearing Burr's character during the NY Governor race, but was there more to it?
Fix the goof, Senate guys. "Regular order."
What AI says...
Why the Senate doesn't have a "previous question"
Historically, the Senate eliminated its "previous question" motion in 1806.
The modern Senate procedure developed its own way to end debate, which is through cloture.
The term "previous question" is still used in other parliamentary bodies like the House of Representatives and in groups that use Robert's Rules of Order.
Aaron Burr recommended eliminating the "previous question" motion because he believed it was redundant and unnecessary. He argued that the Senate's rules already had a way to end debate—the motion for indefinite postponement—and that the previous question rule was rarely used and just duplicated an existing function. In 1806, the Senate followed his advice and removed the rule, inadvertently creating the possibility for the modern filibuster, as it eliminated the only tool a simple majority had to end debate.
Redundant tool: Burr pointed out that the previous question motion, which allowed a majority to end debate and force a vote, was redundant because the Senate already had the motion to "postpone indefinitely," which achieved the same goal of putting an end to discussion.
Unnecessary rule: He argued that since the purpose was already served by another rule, the previous question motion was unnecessary and could be removed from the rulebook.
Inadvertent consequence: When the Senate eliminated the rule in 1806, it unintentionally created the environment for the filibuster by removing the only mechanism a simple majority had to cut off debate. This left the door open for future use of extended debate to block legislation.
The filibuster's intended use is rooted in the Senate's tradition of unlimited debate, which allows a minority of senators to delay or prevent a vote on a bill or other measure.
Key intended uses and rationales include:
Protecting Minority Rights: A primary argument is that the filibuster gives a voice to the political minority, preventing the majority from passing legislation without any input or compromise. It is intended to temper the power of majorities and ensure a broad consensus is needed for significant legislation.
Encouraging Compromise and Deliberation: The requirement of a 60-vote supermajority to end debate (invoking "cloture") forces the majority party to negotiate with the minority to find common ground and bipartisan support. This encourages more thorough consideration and deliberation of bills.
Serving as a Check on the Majority: The filibuster serves as a check on the power of the majority party, particularly in a chamber where a simple majority might not represent a majority of the American population due to the equal representation of states.
Providing Information: By forcing an extended debate (or the threat of one), a senator can signal the intensity of their opposition to a bill, drawing public attention to the issue and providing more information to the Senate and the public.
Matthew 5:37
New International Version
37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.[a]
What AI says...
Bills exempt from the filibusterBudget reconciliation bills: This is a special process that allows certain budgetary matters—such as those concerning spending, revenue, and debt limit—to bypass the filibuster and be passed with a simple majority.
Limitations: Congress can only use budget reconciliation for a limited number of bills per year, and the legislation is restricted to budgetary issues.
POTUS calls Karoline into the Cabinet Room to straighten out the Fake News and PM Orban says, "I want her to work for me." POTUS laughed and told him, "That's a good idea you have, don't leave us Karoline!"
Joys1Daughter is our very own reporter of the news. I hope GAW grows again. I wish Q would post something or that we would get some kind of vindication. This movie seems to be in some boring scene that I can't understand. And it's a long ass scene.
"Viktor has been very strong and other European Leaders could learn from him. He hasn't let one person into his county and Hungary doesn't have the problems that the other Countries have."
YW fren...praying for all Leaders worldwide who are fighting this evil. May God bless and protect them! 🙏🤍
What a Pow Wow with these two today. Not sure if there was more Pow or Wow ;-)
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What AI says about the Senate filibuster...
VP Aaron Burr shot and killed Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton in a duel on July 11, 1804. It was reportedly about Hamilton smearing Burr's character during the NY Governor race, but was there more to it?
Fix the goof, Senate guys. "Regular order."
What AI says...
Matthew 5:37 New International Version 37 All you need to say is simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything beyond this comes from the evil one.[a]
What AI says...
Bills exempt from the filibuster Budget reconciliation bills: This is a special process that allows certain budgetary matters—such as those concerning spending, revenue, and debt limit—to bypass the filibuster and be passed with a simple majority. Limitations: Congress can only use budget reconciliation for a limited number of bills per year, and the legislation is restricted to budgetary issues.
Thanks fren! 👏
POTUS calls Karoline into the Cabinet Room to straighten out the Fake News and PM Orban says, "I want her to work for me." POTUS laughed and told him, "That's a good idea you have, don't leave us Karoline!"
That was so good. Karoline is sp3cial (= Special). 💕🇺🇸
Yes, she's a Warrior!
A very smart and articulate one, for sure.
I love our administration. Meritorious.
Yes! Meritorious. What a wonderful word and so seldom used!
I like Viktor Orbán!
Love him! He's a Trump-like Patriot for Hungary! 💪
POTUS is spanking the Fake News! 🔥😸
I wish! 😹
Dang...faster than a speeding bullet! Thanks mod frens! 🫡
YouTube link:
https://www.youtube.com/live/Kq-ahLckGcw?si=1ztaO9ceEZzWH6tQ
Refresh my memory: Orban's with us, right? It's not just lip service?
Yes! Do you remember during POTUS' first term and he visited the White House? He is just like PDJT!
Trump welcomes Viktor Orban, Hungary’s far-right nationalist prime minister, after past presidents shunned him | CNN Politics
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Sweet! Let's hope Sanae Takaichi proves to be the same for Japan.
POTUS came outside to greet the Hungarian Prime Minister at 12:25 ET.
Joys1Daughter is our very own reporter of the news. I hope GAW grows again. I wish Q would post something or that we would get some kind of vindication. This movie seems to be in some boring scene that I can't understand. And it's a long ass scene.
POTUS is wearing his Q Tie today
"You're NBC FAKE NEWS!"
Bilateral Lunch Meeting Feed begins at 12:40 ET. POTUS begins speaking about the cost of food going down and the Shutdown.
POTUS welcomed the Prime Minister and asks he he would like to say anything. PM Viktor Orban thanks President Trump for everything he has done.
Mom = Minister?
Typo...hate autocorrect! 😸
I hear ya and agree. Lately autosomething kee0s try8nh to put n7mbers in for me.
Happening this last year. It is weird.
Heehee! 😹
Yes! 🤬