The video made by the “Seditious Six” was despicable, reckless, and false. Encouraging our warriors to ignore the orders of their Commanders undermines every aspect of “good order and discipline.” Their foolish screed sows doubt and confusion — which only puts our warriors in danger.
Five of the six individuals in that video do not fall under
@DeptofWar
jurisdiction (one is CIA and four are former military but not “retired”, so they are no longer subject to UCMJ). However, Mark Kelly (retired Navy Commander ) is still subject to UCMJ—and he knows that.
As was announced, the Department is reviewing his statements and actions, which were addressed directly to all troops while explicitly using his rank and service affiliation—lending the appearance of authority to his words. Kelly’s conduct brings discredit upon the armed forces and will be addressed appropriately.
OFFICIAL STATEMENT:
The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality. Further official comments will be limited, to preserve the integrity of the proceedings.
The Department of War reminds all individuals that military retirees remain subject to the UCMJ for applicable offenses, and federal laws such as 18 U.S.C. § 2387 prohibit actions intended to interfere with the loyalty, morale, or good order and discipline of the armed forces. Any violations will be addressed through appropriate legal channels.
All servicemembers are reminded that they have a legal obligation under the UCMJ to obey lawful orders and that orders are presumed to be lawful. A servicemember’s personal philosophy does not justify or excuse the disobedience of an otherwise lawful order.
I think they should actually execute him or at the very least, zap his pension, court martial him and put him in military prison for 25 yrs
OR
put him in military prison for 3 yrs and publicly chain him up in only his underwear lash him 25 time and make it live. If he vomits, give him 5 minute break
The media will screech: "What have WE BECOME!" "This is medieval!" "This is horrific"
They will only ensure it never happens again, at any time, anywhere for at least decades
Other foreign countries with the exception of UK and EU will cheer the justice. They don't want their stupid militaries getting the wrong ideas either
Start the trial. First question, 'Exactly which Trump order/s were 'Illegal orders'? Explain? Mumble.mumble something,opinion,mumble. Guilty of Treason!!!!
Why should that matter? He said to disobey unlawful orders. We should all disagree with this investigation. We can hate dems as much as we want but we can't just start doing illegal shit because we don't like them
Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard and cant believe you are serious. It leads me to believe all you read were those words. If you never served you can not imagine how severe this truly is. We got in this position exactly because of the this type of apathy. It was seriously umbecoming a naval officer and if he was already on active duty he would be under investigation and would be convicted.
No this is just a dumb circle jerk, he explicitly stated unlawful orders, he doesn't need to reference anything in the past. Yes it was retarded of him to say this but he has the legal right to say it. If this is the standard for treason then we are all fucked.
Maybe they find something more that they can pin on him but this isn't enough.
Calling this treason is just a retarded as him saying what he did, but you and him have the right to do it.
I'm sorry, I looked into all the recent posts and interviews he has recently said and every single time he said disobey orders was after he said unlawful. If I missed something can you show me? Or does the military have another rule that he violated when he said disobey unlawful orders?
If I am obviously missing something please show me.
Complete BS. This IS the same COUP (treason) that obama,soros,clinton started in 2015 and it has never stopped. What do you think would have happened if GOP Senators would have (rightly) said the same about obama or biden?
The video made by the “Seditious Six” was despicable, reckless, and false. Encouraging our warriors to ignore the orders of their Commanders undermines every aspect of “good order and discipline.” Their foolish screed sows doubt and confusion — which only puts our warriors in danger.
Five of the six individuals in that video do not fall under @DeptofWar jurisdiction (one is CIA and four are former military but not “retired”, so they are no longer subject to UCMJ). However, Mark Kelly (retired Navy Commander ) is still subject to UCMJ—and he knows that.
As was announced, the Department is reviewing his statements and actions, which were addressed directly to all troops while explicitly using his rank and service affiliation—lending the appearance of authority to his words. Kelly’s conduct brings discredit upon the armed forces and will be addressed appropriately.
OFFICIAL STATEMENT:
The Department of War has received serious allegations of misconduct against Captain Mark Kelly, USN (Ret.). In accordance with the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. § 688, and other applicable regulations, a thorough review of these allegations has been initiated to determine further actions, which may include recall to active duty for court-martial proceedings or administrative measures. This matter will be handled in compliance with military law, ensuring due process and impartiality. Further official comments will be limited, to preserve the integrity of the proceedings.
The Department of War reminds all individuals that military retirees remain subject to the UCMJ for applicable offenses, and federal laws such as 18 U.S.C. § 2387 prohibit actions intended to interfere with the loyalty, morale, or good order and discipline of the armed forces. Any violations will be addressed through appropriate legal channels.
All servicemembers are reminded that they have a legal obligation under the UCMJ to obey lawful orders and that orders are presumed to be lawful. A servicemember’s personal philosophy does not justify or excuse the disobedience of an otherwise lawful order.
O-1 Ensign ENS
O-2 Lieutenant, Junior Grade LTJG
O-3 Lieutenant LT
O-4 Lieutenant Commander LCDR
O-5 Commander CDR
O-6 Captain CAPT
Speculation, but I think he will be brought back to active duty, court martialed, and reduced in rank to ensign.
They should bust him all the way down to seaman recruit and toss him into some bilges to clean
I think they should actually execute him or at the very least, zap his pension, court martial him and put him in military prison for 25 yrs
OR
put him in military prison for 3 yrs and publicly chain him up in only his underwear lash him 25 time and make it live. If he vomits, give him 5 minute break
The media will screech: "What have WE BECOME!" "This is medieval!" "This is horrific"
They will only ensure it never happens again, at any time, anywhere for at least decades
Other foreign countries with the exception of UK and EU will cheer the justice. They don't want their stupid militaries getting the wrong ideas either
Start the trial. First question, 'Exactly which Trump order/s were 'Illegal orders'? Explain? Mumble.mumble something,opinion,mumble. Guilty of Treason!!!!
Why should that matter? He said to disobey unlawful orders. We should all disagree with this investigation. We can hate dems as much as we want but we can't just start doing illegal shit because we don't like them
Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard and cant believe you are serious. It leads me to believe all you read were those words. If you never served you can not imagine how severe this truly is. We got in this position exactly because of the this type of apathy. It was seriously umbecoming a naval officer and if he was already on active duty he would be under investigation and would be convicted.
obama, is that you?
No this is just a dumb circle jerk, he explicitly stated unlawful orders, he doesn't need to reference anything in the past. Yes it was retarded of him to say this but he has the legal right to say it. If this is the standard for treason then we are all fucked.
Maybe they find something more that they can pin on him but this isn't enough.
Calling this treason is just a retarded as him saying what he did, but you and him have the right to do it.
What is retarded is you talk about it and make it obvious you dont know what the hell you speak about.
I'm sorry, I looked into all the recent posts and interviews he has recently said and every single time he said disobey orders was after he said unlawful. If I missed something can you show me? Or does the military have another rule that he violated when he said disobey unlawful orders?
If I am obviously missing something please show me.
Complete BS. This IS the same COUP (treason) that obama,soros,clinton started in 2015 and it has never stopped. What do you think would have happened if GOP Senators would have (rightly) said the same about obama or biden?