You want debt cancellation? Two can play that game!
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None honestly. If you make the choice to do something, then live with the terms. That is the only way to do it. Once you open pandoras box on that it never stops. Plenty examples of this in the world today....
But just because you made the choice doesn’t make that choice valid. What other “choice” do you have? If you want to be a nurse, what other paths can you choose? So now that you want debt, you’ll go work at Tyson instead. Gutting pigs and chicken. That’s an amazing choice there…..This debt shouldn’t exist for this kind of schooling. We need nurses. I just got out of the hospital and those nurses were amazing. All of them from the ER to the hospital stay. Amazing. I’d glad they are there. So what other options can they choose other than this scam laid in debt? There is no choice. So therefore something needs to be done. I think of the “pandemic”. They basically gave you “no choice”. Yet we did have a choice. But that doesn’t relate to that piece of paper needed to get these jobs. There is no other path. And we need, need, many of these people in these positions. Love to hear the other options.
I was referring to the choice to be the nurse to use your example. Knowing you need the paper, knowing it comes with debt, knowing you will be making 6 figures and if you make proper budget choices then you can pay it off.
I understand what you are saying that needed professions such as nurses, doctors, engineers, etc are needed and you need the credentials to get in the door. I agree that college is way too expensive and its for profit, not for education. Look at college football coaches making millions in salary.
But the point I was making is say you forgive nurses. Doctors would be in that too. Then pharmacists, engineers, etc. It will just keep ballooning out. Then when half have forgiveness and the other half doesn't, obviously you know what comes next.
I think these jobs I have mentioned above should all go the way of trade school. Where you are paid while you learn and get hands on experience as you go. Then upon completion you get a big raise and are off into the world.
There are several ways it could be helped but just straight up forgiveness isn't the play IMO.
I’m also thinking of the poor. I’m in construction. Build houses for a living. I’ve seen amazing brilliance, hanging around a plumber because they don’t have a path for cash to go to college. The merit of people is what needs to be appreciated. Rich kids shouldn’t be the only ones getting the breaks. Make the test even harder. They’ll still pass because they are very smart. We have lost geniuses and no telling what because of the scam that’s debt for college and schooling. It deters poor people instantly. And they end up stocking shelves when they coulda been the next doctor in our area. They got the brains, just need the breaks. Another reason education shouldn’t cost a fraction of what it does. If any at all. The cost, imo, is in the housing and traveling and food, esp if they go college abroad. The cost of the school is highway robbery. My thoughts.
Yes absolutely I agree and understand what you are saying. There are geniuses at every level of income and sometimes the fear of the debt is the thing that stops someone one great from doing something great.
Making it purely about tests, meaning you need to pass some hard test to get the opportunity to to college but it would be free is not bad at face value but when I hear this I tend to keep thinking forward in the path... Now you basically have military style placement testing where if you fail, you wont get that second chance. Honestly, the first thing that comes to mind is some socialist placement test to determine what you do for a living. It is just a slippery slope when you base it on anything other than offering a choice and fully understanding all the terms.
What you are describing is how DEI started. It started with give the poor kid a shot by having others pay their way. Obviously there were tons of success stories in that but then it morphed into what we have today. Vast majority women and extremely over represented "minorities" in the name of fairness.
I know what you are saying is coming from a good heart and can feel the passion in it as you write it but we have to always think about how something good can be twisted and morphed into the BS we deal with today.
Overall I still agree college is for profit and not for learning which makes it unreachable for anyone not wealthy or female or minority. This is the current situation. A trade school style of learning would greatly change the dynamic of how it works and more people would have opportunities.
That said, the entire thing needs to be 100% merit based. Not how you were born. The world needs to go back to "the sweat of your brow" and not this forced equal outcome failure mindset that has corrupted many generations now.