Americans are sick & tired of their Ancestors being compared to the migrants of today.
They settled an undeveloped land and built a Civilization. They didn't just waltz in and demand Welfare.
We are a nation of immigrants, plenty of people moved here permanently for the purpose of a better life. Within the implication of immigration is that you seek a better place to move so that you can contribute and benefit from said better situation. The left dropped the contribute part and the concept of doesn’t work without it. If you don’t contribute, you are a parasite, not an immigrant. You want to immigrate here? We will welcome you, but not if you’re here to be a parasite.
Also, immigrant refers to people who plan on moving here permanently, not just so that they can make money and then return home. Not that there isn’t a place for people who wish to provide skilled labor on a temporary basis, but that’s not immigration, that’s a separate issue. Immigration also does not mean moving to a place and making it the same as where you came from. As I said earlier, the purpose is to move to a better place to live a better life, not to bring down everyone around you to your crappy standard of living.
The notion that an immigrant is 'valid' only by contributing to his new society strikes me as a category error. One can be both an immigrant and a parasite. By the same token, the founding principles of America are owed to the reasoning and norms of British-descended Heritage Americans - their immigrant status is incidental. I don't believe 'being contributing immigrants' provides any sufficient basis for a coherent national identity or social contract.
I've also found that such 'nation of immigrant' arguments have accompanied the push for ever more multiculturalism. This comes without any interest in preserving the norms and policies that made the society worth living in for the nation that originally built it.
In practical reality, immigrants 'contributing to society' still often leaves the people of this original nation worse off. The concept is perfectly coherent with them serving as cheap labour to depress wages, fuelling the insanity of housing prices, and generally putting pressure on the cost of living. This will be the case even for well-intentioned immigrants.
Likewise, the norms of many immigrants mean they'll reflexively support and normalise policies that allow more authoritarian and invasive forms of government. Once again, these immigrants can be perfectly well-intentioned. The difficulty of fully comprehending a foreign culture and the society it builds is enough to produce this effect. The same myths that declare countries like America as 'Nations of Immigrants' celebrate this sort of adulteration of its founding mindset in terms of the cultural 'melting pot' instead of speaking of what it truly implies.
The West in general has allowed an enormous number of dysfunctional practices under the justification that contributing to society means you're a valid part of its host nation. I for one am sick of living with the consequences.
Native Americans were not immigrants. Christian Blacks were brought here in Chains not as immigrants.
Native Americans did not invite people to ruin their way of life or kill their descendant or take their land.
The first Christians were not White. They were brown and black.
Jesus doesn't care about your skin tone. He is after your heart regardless of color.
Other civilizations visited America before Whites and went back home.
Europe is receiving what she has done to other nations. That is biblical.
Unrighteous euros rule the righteous Whites and feed them fables and myths to keep them in check.
The Word of God is revealed to the pure of heart.
My relationship with Jesus is more important than my skin color.
I'm sure the Swedes will appreciate the notion that their suffering was earned through the colonial empire their ancestors didn't build. To say nothing of the Irish, who were themselves colonised.
Americans are sick & tired of their Ancestors being compared to the migrants of today. They settled an undeveloped land and built a Civilization. They didn't just waltz in and demand Welfare.
Like they did in Walz territory...
Exactly!
My child will learn that America was built by white Christians. My child will also learn that Christianity built the west.
We are a nation of immigrants, plenty of people moved here permanently for the purpose of a better life. Within the implication of immigration is that you seek a better place to move so that you can contribute and benefit from said better situation. The left dropped the contribute part and the concept of doesn’t work without it. If you don’t contribute, you are a parasite, not an immigrant. You want to immigrate here? We will welcome you, but not if you’re here to be a parasite.
Also, immigrant refers to people who plan on moving here permanently, not just so that they can make money and then return home. Not that there isn’t a place for people who wish to provide skilled labor on a temporary basis, but that’s not immigration, that’s a separate issue. Immigration also does not mean moving to a place and making it the same as where you came from. As I said earlier, the purpose is to move to a better place to live a better life, not to bring down everyone around you to your crappy standard of living.
We are a nation of European Christian settlers. Race and religion matters.
Now you understand what the Dominicans are doing.
The notion that an immigrant is 'valid' only by contributing to his new society strikes me as a category error. One can be both an immigrant and a parasite. By the same token, the founding principles of America are owed to the reasoning and norms of British-descended Heritage Americans - their immigrant status is incidental. I don't believe 'being contributing immigrants' provides any sufficient basis for a coherent national identity or social contract.
I've also found that such 'nation of immigrant' arguments have accompanied the push for ever more multiculturalism. This comes without any interest in preserving the norms and policies that made the society worth living in for the nation that originally built it.
In practical reality, immigrants 'contributing to society' still often leaves the people of this original nation worse off. The concept is perfectly coherent with them serving as cheap labour to depress wages, fuelling the insanity of housing prices, and generally putting pressure on the cost of living. This will be the case even for well-intentioned immigrants.
Likewise, the norms of many immigrants mean they'll reflexively support and normalise policies that allow more authoritarian and invasive forms of government. Once again, these immigrants can be perfectly well-intentioned. The difficulty of fully comprehending a foreign culture and the society it builds is enough to produce this effect. The same myths that declare countries like America as 'Nations of Immigrants' celebrate this sort of adulteration of its founding mindset in terms of the cultural 'melting pot' instead of speaking of what it truly implies.
The West in general has allowed an enormous number of dysfunctional practices under the justification that contributing to society means you're a valid part of its host nation. I for one am sick of living with the consequences.
We are a nation of pioneers and guests. Guests can move up to be pioneers, but they have to work for it.
We are settelers!!!
Hear, hear!!
Agree. WE are doing our best.
Native Americans were not immigrants. Christian Blacks were brought here in Chains not as immigrants. Native Americans did not invite people to ruin their way of life or kill their descendant or take their land. The first Christians were not White. They were brown and black. Jesus doesn't care about your skin tone. He is after your heart regardless of color. Other civilizations visited America before Whites and went back home. Europe is receiving what she has done to other nations. That is biblical. Unrighteous euros rule the righteous Whites and feed them fables and myths to keep them in check. The Word of God is revealed to the pure of heart. My relationship with Jesus is more important than my skin color.
I'm sure the Swedes will appreciate the notion that their suffering was earned through the colonial empire their ancestors didn't build. To say nothing of the Irish, who were themselves colonised.
That's the way of this world. Hunters become the hunted and vice versa. Keeps you humble. Humility is a powerful weapon in the Kingdom of God.