THE FACTS
The Milky Way Galaxy has 100-400 billion stars (suns) Est. 8 trillion planets (Earth is 1) Galaxies Observable Universe: Est. 200-billion to two-trillion galaxies. The milky Way is just one. Faint, un-observable galaxies: 6 to 20 trillion
Knowing this information… well, only fools and idiots could even entertain an idea the earth and its inhabitants are the only living, intelligent species. It is irrational, insane, an indefensible idea that we are alone. We couldn’t be.
In science, the probability of us NOT being alone is a statistical “absolute”! We aren’t alone.
This leads us to only one question: Who, on earth, is preventing us from full disclosure? What are their names? It is time they all stepped aside. Relieve them of all responsibility, all power, all control mechanisms.
Any human being standing against full disclosure is essentially resigning from their post. Relieved of duty. Politely asked to step aside, take a seat and STFU. It’s just time for this.
Anyone disagree?
This experiment generated both isomers, which doesn't work. It used the wrong atmosphere. The products were removed from the experiment to preserve them artificially.
The experiment was a failure from start to finish. This is well documented. It did not demonstrate a viable mechanism for producing life on earth.
Do you need help moving that goalpost? I thought we were talking about whether there is a known mechanism by which life could arise. Now you want to limit it to life in early Earth conditions only? They made amino acids with inorganic compounds with an infinitesimal simulation of planetary conditions. Pretty compelling reason to continue experimenting I think.
Goog on replication of the experiment:
Yes, the 1952 Miller-Urey experiment has been replicated and updated many times, confirming that organic molecules, including amino acids, can form from inorganic precursors under simulated early Earth conditions. Modern variations using different atmospheric compositions and energy sources have produced a wider variety of organic compounds, including nucleobases, supporting the concept of abiogenesis. Key Findings from Replications:
Although our understanding of the specific composition of the early Earth's atmosphere has changed, the fundamental finding—that organic molecules are easily synthesized from simple inorganic ingredients—remains a cornerstone of prebiotic chemistry.
I didn't move the goalpost. I said no mechanism for abiogenesis is known. You brought up a specific failed experiment, so I discussed the specific failures of that study. You are somehow hinting around that other abiogenic pathways could exist without proving a single one for the biology we know exists. This is baseless.
My goalpost is the same. Infinite time with no probability equals no abiogenisis. No mechanism equals no probability. Fantastical thinking at best.
It's fallacious to say there is no probability or mechanism. How could you know that? It's so easy to make amino acids that a very simple experiment was able to produce them. Don't see how it could be considered a failure.
It is a failure in the sense that it doesn't provide a mechanism for abiogenesis. Proteins are not life. The simplest form of know life is a single called organism. This has never been demonstrated. A non carbon lifeform postulate to exist elsewhere has never been demonstrated. There are ZERO known mechanisms to produce life from non life.