No Nation in the World has existed in isolation since the beginning of the 20th Century. Like it or not, we live in an era of mankind when no nation can exist in isolation.
Why is this important? Because the direction of the world inevitably affects what happens in America. If China is gaining a toe-hold in Canada, or Greenland, do you think this doesn't affect the USA?
When Trump stated: "The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens" you either agree with him or you don't.
If you do, then you need to understand, there are three major players in the world, and our world is more rapidly developing than at any time in human history. Artificial intelligence will play an absolutely key role to the future well-being not only of America, but of every person on the planet. Whoever wins the AI race, and whatever principles they uphold, will impact the future of the whole planet. America included.
America, Russia, China.
Not recognizing this point is extremely short-sighted.
What about Iran? Iran is the FINAL linchpin maintaining conflict and violence in the Middle East. Iran has sponsored terrorism and chaos in all their neighboring countries, helping to create the immigration crisis that Europe has undergone. But if there is peace in the Middle East, if the Iranian people are allowed to create a prosperous nation dedicated to the well-being of all its people, who benefits?
Everyone.
Everyone except the Globalist maniacs who want to subvert all nations to their will.
Everyone except those people who benefit from war and suffering.
This is why Trump has been moving to secure not just the American homeland - capturing and removal of illegal criminal immigrants - but securing South America - Venezuela, and their energy reserves, etc.
This is why Trump has been making peace deals around the world, bringing together nations that have been enemies for decades, or longer.
Why? Because a world at peace, a world where the different regions are no longer exploited by global corporations or agents of chaos, a world where every nation can finally look at the real American model and aspire to achieve some similar success, that world ensures the safety of America and the future of America.
And if you are worried about Israel, well, a liberated Iran would not empower Israel to pursue war, but rather make the Israeli war-machine redundant. If the Israel Machine is indeed evil, this action against the terrorist Iranian regime doesn't help them. It makes them weaker.
What matters is not the headline, the image, the action, but the WHY. And Trump's why is very, very clear.
Peace for America and the World means peace through strength.
The first duty of the American Government is to protect American Citizens
And that is exactly why Trump is doing what he's doing.
Anyone who cannot see this is ignoring everything that Trump has done. His track record speaks for itself.
If you do not see that this is 100% America First, then I do not know what to say, except that I'm glad Trump is President.
The issue is that President Trump has consistently framed "America First" as staying out of military operations in other countries. That was one of the things he campaigned on, staying out of wars and military operations in other countries and stopping wars around the world. He was very clear on what "America First" means
You can't have it both ways. "America First" can't mean both "staying out of military operations in other countries" and "getting involved in military operations in other countries" as it suits you.
Do I think President Trump is wrong for wanting to keep America out of pointless wars around the world? No.
Do I think President Trump is wrong for helping orchestrate removing Kehmani? No.
Because I understand that "America First" is a campaign slogan used to describe the ideal situation President Trump wanted to happen and that real life doesn't always match up to our ideals and that we must sometimes make difficult decisions.
But trying to wave away the fact that President Trump and the Republicans have leaned heavily on the "America First" slogan, and repeatedly framed it as avoiding wars/military operations in foreign countries and stopping wars around the world is not going to work.
It just makes us look like we're hypocrites or that we are cult like and will just twist definitions of words and slogans around to fit whatever President Trump is currently doing.
Are liberals and similar trolls going to use President Trump's "America First" slogan against him when he is involved in military operations in other countries? Of course they are. Because it's an easy thing to attack.
But the best response is not trying to gaslight people about what "America First" means, or try to redefine it to suit whatever is going on at the moment. Especially in this day and age when even 7 year Olds can find every quote and recording of President Trump talking about how his "America First" stance would be to end wars and keep us out of new ones. In pretty much every single rally he has held and countless interviews and various quotes.
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Overseas Patriot here (neither a US resident or citizen). As such, I don't keep as close a watch on DJT, the US political campaigns, etc. Also, its not flooded into my environment as I expect it would be in the US (i.e. normal conversation).
Anyway, so I'm not as exposed to the information you're giving, re: that Trump's America First campaigning had a strong ""staying out of military operations in other countries" aspect to it.
So, I can neither confirm nor deny what you're saying here. But, a few thoughts.
Firstly, I found your comment makes good sense and it comes across as thoughtful and considered. If you are right, then the argument you make stands.
Secondly, over the course of the past 12 months, I've come across thinking that suggests a strong effort for certain quarters to hijack the Trump base by making MAGA (Make America Great Again) different to America First, and then the America First slogan and narrative being used against Trump, in attempts to delegitimize him and MAGA.
So, I'm wary of the idea of America First being weaponized. Aka how was "America First" by Trump? Has it been hijacked to mean something it isn't?
As far as I know, the "America First" platform was not "staying out of military operations in other countries" but rather a) "No more endless wars" and "No more forever wars", rather than a pure "no overseas wars" idea.
I.e Trump campaigned on America First by rejecting the neoconservative interventionism that has lead to protracted military actions lasting years and decades, aka forever wars.
Which is really the point of my post. Not letting anti-Trumpists (whether overt or covert operatives, aka whether Lefties or fake Maga, fake Conservative influencers) redefine what his America First approach really is, by contrasting the difference between the neocon interventions (and democrat operations) over the last few decades and what Trump is doing now.
I'd agree that its a tough sell. And if so, its precisely because narrative war has been waged on Trump specifically from 'our side' to redefine what America First really means.
The goal of the narrative warfare is to de-legitimize Trump, precisely by redefining what Trump really stands for.
But also, if his message was generally frameable as "no more wars" even if not in those specific words, then it's a tough sell.
You may well be right.
I'm not sure that what I've done here is attempt to gas-light, and I still think the case has to be made.
There MUST be situations where this sort of military action is necessary, and we know that Trump does tend to go big on rhetoric. Let's hope the benefits (and necessity) of this current action become self-evident enough to the US population and that it's quickly brought to a state where the distinction is clear between all those 'forever wars', 'endless wars' and what Trump is now doing.
What exactly do you think the word "Patriot" means, that it would include someone who is neither a resident nor a citizen?
Why do you feel like you can speak as an authority on what "America First" means, if you're that in the dark about what is actually going on here?
If you really are in doubt of what I say, just spend some time watching all of Trump's rallys and campaign speeches and such. Watch
I'm wondering where exactly it is you're getting your info about what is going on in the US if you're not listening/reading what President Trump and the Republicans are saying first hand.
To be clear, I'm not saying that military operations are never needed. I'm saying that trying to convince people (especially ones who are actually in the US and/or actually pays attention to what Trump himself says and doesn't get their info from various random ass people on X) that "America First" has meant anything other than "Keep the US out of foreign military conflicts" is asinine and just makes normies distrust everything we say.
If someone has spent the last 5+ years going to Trump rallies or watching them on YouTube and actually paying attention to what he and the Republicans have been saying and have heard for themselves the sentiment that the US needs to stay out of foreign conflicts and focus on domestic issues and that Trump was the President that was going to end wars, not start them, for literally hundreds of rallies and speeches over the years and then someone tries to tell them that "America First" actually meant <insert whatever it is you're trying to convince them of>, rather than what they have been told for years....what do you think will happen, exactly? They'll just jump right on board and ignore the years and years and years of constantly being told we need to stay out of foreign business and focus on things here, in the actual US?
Now throw in the fact that they're being told this by someone who 1. Is not an American 2. Not even in the US. 3. Obviously can't be bothered to watch/listen to what the President has actually said in the past and seems to get their info from places like X.
What exactly do you think that accomplishes?
How about you go do some actual research on this before trying to instruct actual Americans who actually live here what "America First" means?
Wow, why so agro?
"Patriot" What exactly do you think the world patriot means?
Is it an exclusive property of Americans? there are millions of 'patriots' around the world who are inspired by the patriotic heart of Donald Trump. A patriot means someone who loves their nation and their people.
You can be a patriot without being an American. I am a [my nation] patriot. I feel sorry for you if your viewpoint is so zenophobic to think that only American patriots are real patriots, and if you haven't realized that the Q movement became a force of inspiration for patriots all around the world. And that patriots can very much be aligned because of common principles aka loving one's own nation and people.
Your reply reads like a rather stuck-up kid throwing a tantrum.
In essence, your assertions include:
No one can share a viewpoint or opinion unless they are an authority. (I have never, ever stated "I'm an authority on what America First means".)
You dared question my perspective! How dare you? You are not even American???
I'm outraged that you would dare express a view!
(shock, horror. Newflash, there are plenty of dumb Americans who do not get either Trump or what he is doing, and there are plenty of non-Americans who get what Trump is doing far better than (I'd say) what most American do.)
In case you missed it, there were plenty of frogs here who happened to resonate with my view expressed in the post. I guess all of them are not American either.
And, I engaged you here in the premise of good-faith discussions, willing to learn more. I candidly expressed my lack of knowledge compared with yourself, even though I still attempted to engage and discuss.
Sadly, instead of discussing, you responded like a priggish kid.
Let me conclude with a question or two.
Do you think that Trump acted with the mindset that his first priority is the United States? Or is his mindset, nah, sometimes, just, American second or third?
Your points about his campaign and rhetoric are well made. But at, its essence, what you do think that Trump means when HE says 'America First'? Surely that counts for something?
Thanks anyway for the insight into your mentality, attitude and character. Best of luck.
Edit: Maybe the reason you have made so few contributions here is because your viewpoint is so perfect? Or because you are not 'an authority' on ... anything?
This is a Q board. It's not a place for authorities.
Note to self: arrogance is very rarely very becoming.