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Charlie Kirl gave a 3000 year hack to make yourself happier and less anxious - "I would argue that the more radical you are about the Sabbath the more you're going to get out of it" (www.youtube.com) 𝙱𝙴 𝙻𝙸𝙺𝙴 𝙲𝙷𝙰𝚁𝙻𝙸𝙴
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– photobuf 2 points 81 days ago +2 / -0

I know all this but it makes no difference. The Ten Commandments WERE the Old Covenant. God said you do this and I will do that. The New Covenant is spiritual. Jesus said so in His Sermon on the Mount. The Law is spiritual and written in our hearts. The Sabbath of the Old Covenant was a day of rest for the people of God. The Sabbath of the New Covenant is spiritual and we have our rest in Christ to cease from "WORKS".

There is ZERO mention in Acts about the Ten Commandments because the Law of works was replaced by the New Covenant.The early church kept the Sabbath but they did NOT command that converts to Christ be weighed down by the law that neither their fathers or them could keep.

If you want to keep the Sabbath, more power to you but to say we could lose our salvation by not keeping is blasphemy!

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– ConfirmAndAffirm 1 point 80 days ago +1 / -0

For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: Isaiah 28:10

Rather than allow the imaginations of our heart to run wild, let us again return to the Scripture and study line upon line, precept upon precept, on what is written. Truth very plainly written, and it is incredibly dangerous to try and read any extra thoughts into the Text. In studying the Bible diligently and prayerfully, always look to extract everything from the Text as it is written and in the context within which it is written.

They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. John 8:39

There is no ceasing of works, but the works that are to be done are not done in order to be saved, but are done as the visible fruits of salvation.

But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? James 2:20

And the works which Abraham did were directly connected with the Moral Law of the Ten Commandments:

Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Genesis 26:5, Galatians 3:29

And all those who are the children of Abraham are the children of a living faith that works, not a works that looks to earn salvation as wages for then the Creator would be indebted to His own creation. The keeping of the Law then rightly understood as an expression of gratitude and done as an outflow of love:

If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15

No where was it mentioned that by the works of the law is someone saved; if you truly knew all of what was written, then the response which was written would have been worded differently and contained Scripture, put in its proper context and with its proper understanding, to assert any claims.

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1 John 5:2-3

Again, the keeping of the law is the outward expression of faith, even as the works of Abraham that were done not in order to be saved, but as a conscious realization of being saved.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matthew 5:18

For heaven and earth are still here, and the great work of character building is on-going while today is still called today.

And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled. Revelation 15:8

Because the final fulfillment comes with the final plague which have not yet come, but are soon to come.

For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20

And that righteousness which you are speaking of is that of the scribes and the Pharisees, is a self-righteousness derived from exacting laws ceremonial, not laws Moral (being the Ten Commandments). If you truly read and pondered over the Bible study, then you would see and hear that the Scripture makes this abundantly clear.

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. Mark 7:7-8

Where is the washing of pots and cups in the Ten Commandments? These ceremonial and traditional laws were the burdens that you speak of, not the Moral Law, for the righteousness of the scribes and the Pharisees was a self-righteousness that refused to differentiate between the Moral law and the ceremonial law, just as you are doing now, despite claiming to understand the Scripture. The scribes and the Pharisees too claimed to understand Scripture.

For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. Hebrews 4:4-8

Now if Jesus Himself is rest, as some mistakenly believe, then there would “not afterward have spoken of another day”.

Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Hebrews 4:7-10

To rest as God did is to rest on the seventh day from all works, just as commanded in the Fourth Commandment. Do notice the word "day" in Hebrews 4:8 is translated from the Greek "hēmera" which is the equivalent of the Hebrew "yom". The word "day" therefore represents a very real, a very physical, evening and morning, sunset to sunset, 24 hour day.

But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. Matthew 24:20-21

Now if there was not a physical day to rest, then there would not be a direct admonishing that the Sabbath be kept even in the future as read here in Matthew 24:20.

And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. Luke 4:16

Because the keeping and preaching to the effort of sanctification, to the effort of character building, was done during the Sabbath.

And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, Acts 17:2

And Paul, along with the disciples, followed in the example of Jesus and reasoned in the Scriptures with them on the Sabbath day.

And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks. Acts 18:4

With the reasoning being of the Moral law, and the "them" being both Jew and Greek.

And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 13:42

Because the Sabbath was made for all as a day of restoration, not as a day of obligation. It is a decision which each individual makes, but to say that it is spiritual and to put it on par with the Sunday, if you truly had an understanding of what you were saying, then you would realize the error in those words.

Now to rest is, as the word implies, to rest. How can it then be works? It is then not to work, but it is to discard all feelings of pride and thoughts of self-sufficiency and be rid of any imaginations of the heart which seek to add to a work of salvation that was completed before the world began (2 Timothy 1:9). The works have already been completed, and the Sabbath of rest is to physically rest in that understanding as a day given to grow in a relationship with God and restore that which was lost in Eden.

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: Genesis 3:4

Now what was lost in Eden? Wise moral conduct, as the word for "die" is the Hebrew "mûṯ", meaning "a neglect of wise moral conduct". Where is wise moral conduct found? How will man learn of what was lost in Eden? How can there be an expulsion on the basis of the neglect of law, then a claim that a return is too on a neglect of law, on a spiritualization of law? Governments and countries have law, and "law and order" is even one of the idioms of the administration, yet there is no expectation of a higher law, a heavenly law, to understand? This is not reasonable even by the imaginations of the heart, let alone the teaching of Scripture.

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isaiah 14:12-14

Lucifer was banished from Heaven due to his selfish mindset of covetousness.

Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. Exodus 20:17

The Tenth Commandment, the capstone of the second table of stone of the Moral Law, speaks not about the action, but about the same mindset of covetousness which caused the fall of Lucifer.

Just as there are laws on earth, there is verily a law in heaven. Just as you do not ideally keep the law on earth in order to not receive punishment, but because "well, it is the right thing to do", it is the Moral Law of the Ten Commandments which teach what is that right thing to do in order to form the character. To keep the law as works of salvation is not salvational, but to keep the law as a desire to learn how to love, as a desire to learn more of the unchanging character of God that can not simply be spiritualized away as the Ten Commandments is verily the transcript of the character of God, is the fruit of salvation.

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:19

Because to teach the Ten Commandments is to teach of the character of God, even to make known the love of God.

For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1 John 5:3

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– photobuf 2 points 80 days ago +2 / -0

The Ten Commandments were a physical law written on tables of stone. They were the Old Covenant made between God and the nation of Israel. A promise from God that if Israel would obey His laws He would bless them and make them prosper in the land He gave them. What happened? Israel could not obey the laws. It is impossible for anyone to obey these laws spiritually. They broke every one of the Ten and God finally gave them up for punishment. They ceased to become a nation but what man could not do, God did for us. He sent Jesus to obey the Law not just physically but also spiritually. Jesus outlined the spiritual aspect of the Commandments in His Sermon on the Mount. NOBODY can fulfill the spiritual aspect of the Commandments. Jesus knew this and it why He died on the cross so through faith in His death and resurrection we could be saved---not by any of our righteousness but by His righteousness.

You say you keep the Sabbath? Do you prepare all your meals on Friday so you will have something to eat during the Sabbath? If not, you broke the Sabbath. Do you stay in your home never going outside on the Sabbath? Israel was commanded to stay in their tents on the Sabbath and rest. Do you do any physical activity on the Sabbath? If so you break the Sabbath. Do you drive your car to church on the Sabbath? You broke the Sabbath.

Keeping the Sabbath is fine but it is NOT required for salvation. Adding ANYTHING as a requirement to salvation is denying the sacrifice of Jesus was not sufficient. THAT is blasphemy.

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– ConfirmAndAffirm 1 point 78 days ago +1 / -0

I am sorry to say, but it seems like you did not read more than perhaps one or two lines of the over 25,000 characters of Bible study written exclusively for you. If you did, then you would not say something like this as if it was new,

Adding ANYTHING as a requirement to salvation is denying the sacrifice of Jesus was not (you added the "not" but that is a slip of the tongue unless you meant to say "saying" instead of "denying") sufficient.

for that never was once insinuated in any of the three studies. In fact, even thinking to use works as a means to earn salvation, as if salvation could be earned as wages, was specifically rebuked. Dozens of verses of Scripture were all corroborated in order to show the purely Scriptural understanding of faith, works, obedience, and most importantly, love.

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 1 John 5:2

But your confusion, because perhaps you did read but do not quite understand the language that is used in the Bible, is in what law is being spoken of. Again, to reiterate, there is the Moral Law of the Ten Commandments, the civil law, and the ceremonial law. All of the theories that you conclude, and all of the grievances that you spoke of, are either found in the civil law, or in the ceremonial law. There is nothing grievous in the Moral Law:

For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. 1 John 5:3

Now a king is not without his government, and a government is not without its laws. Again, if you lump in the civil and ceremonial laws with the Moral Law, which is what you are doing and what the Pharisees also did, then you are denying the law of the government of God. By throwing out the Moral Law with the civil law and the ceremonial law, you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and in this specific case, that means that you are verily throwing out Jesus. Knowingly or not, you are rejecting His position as King of kings, as Lord of lords, as Messiah, as Christ, and are doing just as what the large majority of the Pharisees did.

Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying, Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread. But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death. But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition. Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. Matthew 15:1-8

If you truly seek a heart wisdom, a heart knowledge, and a heart understanding of what is written in the Word of God, then go back and prayerfully read through those three studies. Go back and discover the love of God as written in His Moral Law.

And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things. He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. Mark 6:34, John 14:21

Because keeping the Moral Law is the testament, even the covenant, of love.

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– photobuf 1 point 78 days ago +1 / -0

Ya know, this is getting OLD this going back and forth so lets be clear, YOU KEEP WHATEVER YOU THINK IS GOOD FOR YOU and I will keep doing what I READ in the New Testament written by Paul the Apostle that was taught directly by the risen Savior Jesus. OKAY!

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– winn 1 point 76 days ago +1 / -0

couple things you may want to look into, firstly, the "precept upon precept" verse is not a verse of praise or command on how to study the Scriptures, it's a form of derision. The stubborn Israelites were basically viewing the prophets God sent as kindergarden teachers, telling them "do this, that, the other thing, don't do that". God was rebuking them in Is. 28, not commending them for their godly reverence of His Word.

second, "Lucifer" is a nickname of mockery God was giving to the arrogant king of Babylon in Is. 14. It is thanks to the somewhat curious retention of the Latin word for "shining one" that we have such a lore surrounding the word Lucifer. The passage is quite simple: The king of Babylon thought he was a god, thought he could do anything. God said nuh uh! kek

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– ConfirmAndAffirm 1 point 76 days ago +1 / -0

Wonderful mention of the context! You are absolutely right! If the use of the Text was misinterpreted, then apologies. There was no intent to infer praise or command or derision or anything else. It was only to give an introduction into how to study the Bible, especially when there is a lack of understanding, because remember, rebuke is given as loving instruction for the purpose of edification.

And also on Lucifer:

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Isaiah 14:12

You are absolutely right about the description of the king of Babylon, but his description was given as being in the image of Satan. Just as in Ezekiel and describing the prince of Tyre and the king of Tyre (Ezekiel 28), one literal and one spiritual describing the Satanic mindset that ruled over Tyre just as it did over Babylon, here too Isaiah, who was a contemporary of Ezekiel, is describing the spiritual mindset of the king of Babylon as that belonging to Satan. It is sort of a double application, physical and spiritual, in one Verse. Good catch!

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. Revelation 12:4

Because the falling away from heaven, or the being cast away from heaven, is too a literal description of Satan.

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. Revelation 22:16

And in both the Hebrew and the Greek the same word is used for "morning". So the "son of the morning" is too a description of Satan when he was under the epithet of Lucifer, as the Morning Star is Jesus.

For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Colossians 1:16

For the angels are too described as "morning stars":

When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:7

Wonderful catches! Thank you for adding clarification and allowing the study to grow! How beautiful!

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