Folks still talking about the debt as if it is a bill that needs to be paid. The fraud is and was against the American people when the federal reserve was established and Congress no longer regulates currency as originated. The debt is the amount of money in circulation, federal reserve notes, owned by centralized banking system the Federal Reserve. That currency, US dollar aka federal reserve note is "loaned" to the United States and the United States pays interest on the loaned currency. The debt will never go away until it is re-established that congress regulates currency and removes the use of the Federal Reserve as the owner of the currency we use.