Nothing aimed at you personally - but absolutely aimed at the endless "no more data centers" posts that have taken up a large percentage of posts here lately.
In fact, I agree with you on eminent domain, that's never been right. In Texas, is can only be used for things like highways - not private corporate projects. Still sucks for folks in the path of electrical lines, country roads that are becoming 6 lanes, etc.
The argument should be "end eminent domain" not "no more data centers". The push for data centers is about economic growth - growth that outpaces our competitors and enemies. It is required - without it our current debt is unsustainable. With it, we have a chance to recover and thrive.
At the end of the day, these data centers are look for 3 things - distance to existing electrical transmission lines, distance to existing fiber optic routes, and then cheapest spot. Undeveloped land that lives at and intersection of the first two tends to be the cheapest option, and thus the route they choose.
Wrong about the eminent domain only being used for highways. I had a pipeline come through my small slice of heaven - 50 acre ranch. They bisected it, orphaned is the technical term. They claimed eminent domain, private corporation - natural gas being piped all the way to the coast so that it could be loaded onto tankers and sold to the European market.
It took them 2 YEARS to put that pipeline in the ground - a 3 ft diameter pipeline less than 500 yards from my house at 1200 psi. They made a mess of the entire easement, it still hasn’t recovered and that was 6 years ago. My property value is not the same because of that easement. I had to sell really nice cattle that I had spent time and money to raise because I didn’t have the acreage to have the grass necessary for the number of cattle for the 2 years that they f’d up my property. And I couldn’t afford the hay.
i was considering your point until “undeveloped land” popped up…natural TX land for ranches, farms and such are NOT considered undeveloped by the fifth generation native Texans whose families fought many battles to keep it just the way God designed it!
Again, not disagreeing that land like this means something to the folks who ranch or farm it. Fact remains, if it does not have sewage/wastewater, electrical infrastructure, paved roads, etc. - it is considered undeveloped to the real estate market. Thus, the lower price. If you don't want it changed - don't sell it to the developers.
If the data centers are allowed to claim eminent domain by the government, then we don’t have a choice about selling and we don’t get to set the price of the property.
agree with you, but the ones trying to do the selling, are the ones who inherited it from lineage, don't care about it other than the $$$ it will bring, AND they live in cities far from the land they are trying to disrupt, not caring about destroying the value of others' properties in the area...it just ain't neighborly, but greed is a powerful drug to those so inclined...
Yeah, I get texts and snail mail and even phone calls for the 300 acres that I have down the road that is used for hay pastures and wildlife exemption. Every single one calls the property “undeveloped land”.
Nothing aimed at you personally - but absolutely aimed at the endless "no more data centers" posts that have taken up a large percentage of posts here lately.
In fact, I agree with you on eminent domain, that's never been right. In Texas, is can only be used for things like highways - not private corporate projects. Still sucks for folks in the path of electrical lines, country roads that are becoming 6 lanes, etc.
The argument should be "end eminent domain" not "no more data centers". The push for data centers is about economic growth - growth that outpaces our competitors and enemies. It is required - without it our current debt is unsustainable. With it, we have a chance to recover and thrive.
At the end of the day, these data centers are look for 3 things - distance to existing electrical transmission lines, distance to existing fiber optic routes, and then cheapest spot. Undeveloped land that lives at and intersection of the first two tends to be the cheapest option, and thus the route they choose.
Wrong about the eminent domain only being used for highways. I had a pipeline come through my small slice of heaven - 50 acre ranch. They bisected it, orphaned is the technical term. They claimed eminent domain, private corporation - natural gas being piped all the way to the coast so that it could be loaded onto tankers and sold to the European market. It took them 2 YEARS to put that pipeline in the ground - a 3 ft diameter pipeline less than 500 yards from my house at 1200 psi. They made a mess of the entire easement, it still hasn’t recovered and that was 6 years ago. My property value is not the same because of that easement. I had to sell really nice cattle that I had spent time and money to raise because I didn’t have the acreage to have the grass necessary for the number of cattle for the 2 years that they f’d up my property. And I couldn’t afford the hay.
i was considering your point until “undeveloped land” popped up…natural TX land for ranches, farms and such are NOT considered undeveloped by the fifth generation native Texans whose families fought many battles to keep it just the way God designed it!
Again, not disagreeing that land like this means something to the folks who ranch or farm it. Fact remains, if it does not have sewage/wastewater, electrical infrastructure, paved roads, etc. - it is considered undeveloped to the real estate market. Thus, the lower price. If you don't want it changed - don't sell it to the developers.
If the data centers are allowed to claim eminent domain by the government, then we don’t have a choice about selling and we don’t get to set the price of the property.
agree with you, but the ones trying to do the selling, are the ones who inherited it from lineage, don't care about it other than the $$$ it will bring, AND they live in cities far from the land they are trying to disrupt, not caring about destroying the value of others' properties in the area...it just ain't neighborly, but greed is a powerful drug to those so inclined...
Yeah, I get texts and snail mail and even phone calls for the 300 acres that I have down the road that is used for hay pastures and wildlife exemption. Every single one calls the property “undeveloped land”.