Introduction

A lot of people think Henry Nowak is going to be some kind of watershed moment for UK policing. Perhaps this is the case, we will see. However, my mind has been pushing F to Doubt for some time. I the main, the UK forces are some of the least reliable police forces around from what i can tell.

First off, I want to caveat this. Not all policemen and officers are the same. Not all cases are the same. I've had one major incident requiring the police in my life, and the police did resolve it successfully approximately 4 months after it happened (arrests made, and case successfully prosecuted with convictions of all offenders). They did an excellent job of doing all they could to resolve the crime and find the culprits, which they did.

HOWEVER - one success story does not a successful policing and enforcement policy make. The police in the UK, both the Met and other forces around the country, are in my view plagues by a number of issues that can sit in the umbrella called incompetence.

The problems with the UK Police Force

Nowak was a terrible event, and hopeful a catalyst for change. However, this is not new. The grooming gangs all over England are another example. But that too is not new. The issues of police incompetence should have started gaining proper attention around the 1990s with the death of Rachel Nickell, something I'll provide later in this thread.

To be clear, the UK Police have displayed several forms of incompetence :

• lazyiness
• procedural
• training
• corruption
• administrative These often have overlaps which can lead to minor inconveniences like longer wait times and feeling insecure due to a lack of presence, to serious and systemic failures that lead to the innocent being charged without evidence or the guilty being able to commit even worse crimes.

I intend to try and catalogue the types of failure since 1970 in some brevity, as it was around then that the entire policing model changed from Community driven to centralised. Before 1970, from about 1900 to the 1960s, police were considered a community pillar, whereas now they are often seen as either a waste of time or part of the problem.

In the case of Nowak, a lot of the problem stems from procedural incompetence and failures in training from what i can tell. But these are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to cops in the uk today. I must also stress that the problems with police in the uk are endemic and in many ways horrifying. They make the US thin blue line look tame by comparison, with some cases spanning 30 to 40 years or longer.

Examples of the various forms of incompetence

The examples I am raising here are all public record examples. Most have wiki pages or news articles easily found online. I want you all to have a better understanding of why in Britain the cops are more than just "a few bad apples", and more than just facing some procedural issues around racism. So, in no particular order:

1. 2019: 999 (emergency response number in the uk) operators ask the Eaton family to "book an appointment" to have a police officer visit their property after being informed while on holiday that their property was broken into. Their neighbour, who made the 999 call, mentioned to the operator that there were 3 cop cars by the local cafe doing nothing, and was told "it isn't police procedure these days". Cause: Laziness + Procedural + administrative incompetence
2. 1992: Rachel Nickell is brutally stabbed by Robert Napper on Wimbledon Common while walking with her two year old son. However, it took police almost 15 years to correctly identify the killer. This gets worse though - Napper was a suspect for several rape incidents in 1989, but police let him abscond after requesting blood from him for testing. He fled the area, and instead of hunting him down, the force decided he couldn't be the rapist because his height wasn't an exact witness statement match, despite his own mom calling them to investigate him. Napper was in prison when he was eventually charged for Nickell's death over the murder of another mother + her daughter too. Now to the cherry on top, the police identified Napper as a potential suspect before the second murder in 1993, but decided to peruse another man, Stagg, after staging an undercover sting op against him, something which the judge threw out of court due to its violation of the laws. All in all, this was a major scandal for the police, which went up for review. The result? About £750k to Stagg for wrongful imprisonment, £125k to the policewoman who was asked to seduce him, £22k to Alex Nickell who lost his mom, and zero police officers facing any punishment because most had either retired or died. No criminal case brought against the cops either. Causes: procedural, laziness, corruption
3. 2025: Henry Nowak. This we have probably all read about by now tbh, but white kid gets stabbed by a sikh, and the cops arrested the victim because muh racism. We will see if they see any officers punished, or even if an investigation actually happens here. Causes: procedural, training
4. 2002 : Operation Tiberius is launched to investigate corruption in the MET police force. The results of this are eventually leaked to the papers in 2014. It showed that organised crime was basically buying free passes from Scotland Yard to commit crimes in England. Just over 50 cops were "investigated" for corruption charges but i cant find any instance of any officers being arrested or even disciplined over the events this investigation found (though some transfera and resignations did happen). It is also worth mentioning there were freemasonry connections found that enabled this corruption. Causes: corruption, training, administrative incompetence
5. 1978 to 1982: Operation Countryman also did a corruption investigation after raids began to yield bugger all on slcertain targets. Arrests of 8 officers did happen, but no convictions. The operation found that there was endemic corruption in the MET, and not just in the rank and file. It was also historic, with high ranking officials in the force being compromised. It took country cops going undercover as city cops to do the operation, hence the name. Interestingly there is also a freemason connection to this corruption too, as specific lodges seemed to be focal points for it. Causes: corruption
6. 1980s to 2013: Operation Stove wood, aka the Rotherham grooming gang scandal, is notorious and just one of many of such situations around Britain. However it became quite noteworthy due to the famous point that the police didn't make arrests for fear of being called "racist". This led to 1400 kids in one area being raped by multiple men over a 30 year span. Some of the cops in that area also participated in the atrocities. Despite this, no charges were filed against any police involved in said scandal, although many men have been tried and convicted in the Pakistani community. See also Telford and Rochdale grooming scandals (this one is endemic in Britain). Causes: procedural, corruption
7. 1987: Daniel Morgan is murdered in a pub car park with an axe. He was a PI whose death remains unsolved to this day. 67 people were arrested and released. A 2021 investigation into the incident and it's handling found the MET was, once again, institutionally corrupt. Evidence was tampered with and in some cases lost outright. It also linked up eventually to the phone hacking scandal of 2011 by the news of the world org. All in all, a rather bad stain that cost the MET about 2 million in damages to the Morgan family. But again, no justice was given to Daniel. Causes: corruption, incompetence (generic)
8. 1989: the Hillsborough disaster and subsequent cover up is one of the worst. 97 dead and the policed shifted the blame to Liverpool fans. The south Yorkshire police force altered over 300 police statements and attempted to blame the event on drunken fans getting violent. The reality was it was the police who failed at basic crowd control. Again, no arrests made of any officer, though a later inquiry found the match commander responsible would have been dismissed for gross negligence if they hadn't spent so much effort into he cover up. It wasn't just the police who enabled that cover up though, as the coroner in 1991 ruled all the deaths as accidental instead of unlawful. This was eventually overturned, but it took 20 years to happen. Causes: training, corruption
9. 1989 to 2020: David Carrick. Police officer defending diplomats in the main, he was nicknamed "Bastard Dave" by his fellow officers. He deserved that too, as he raped and tortured 14 women, using his position to lure them into having a relationship with him. He also raped a 14 Yr old girl in 1989. It took a lot of pressure to arrest him, which finally happened in 2021. He's been tried multiple times, each adding life sentences to his incarceration. Causes: administrative, corruption
10. 2021: Sarah Everard is kidnapped. Later it is found that a police officer, Wayne Couzens, arrested her, drover her from London to Kent, then raped and murdered her. He then burned the body and tried to dispose of it in a pond. Couzens also worked in the same squad as David "Bastard Dave" Carrick. Unlike Dave, he was identified as a suspect and arrested far more quickly. The point where this becomes an incompetence issue is Couzens was found to be indecently exposing himself across Kent prior to the murder. In addition, the MET also released advice on how to not become another Sarah Everard, which was advice that could get people arrested for resisting arrest. Causes: procedural & administrative invompetence
11. 2011: touched on this slightly with Daniel Morgan, but police were feeding confidential case info to the News of the World & the Sun papers. Tens of thousands of pounds worth of cash was exchanged for details about cases that shouldn't have been shared with anyone. Some were active cases or regarding deaths of officers prior to families being informed. Reault: two high level resignations. That's it. Causes: corruption
12. 1974 to 1976: the "Guilford Four" and "Maguire Severn" are arrested for Ira related bombings during "the troubles". They are convicted of the crime in 1975 & 1976. Trouble is they didn't do it. Their convictions were based on confessions gained via torture and threats to their families. However, it wasn't until 1989 that an investigation into the case found serious discrepancies in the Guilford 4 investigation. Police notes altered and edited, evidence which should have been inadmissible was submitted, officers perjurimg themselves in court. In the end the case were quashed in 1989. As for the Maguire 7, this was also quashed soon after the Guilford 4 case, as the two were related to the same bombings. The end result? No one was ever found guilty of the Guilford and Woolwich pub bombings after the Guilford 4 & Maguire 7 were released, though a separate Ira cell was caught and admitted to committing the atrocities. Three officers were charged with perverting the course of justice, but none were convicted. Causes: procedural general incompetence
13. 2014 to 2016: Stephen Port rapes & murders 4 men, gaining the nom de plume of "The Grindr Killer". Cringe, I know. However, the MET once again got put in the crossfire for this as they failed to connect the dots at all. The first victim's body was effectively outside Port's front door, dead from an apparent overdose. The next 3 victims died the same way, propped up in a nearby graveyard. Witnesses weren't interviewed, physical evidence was in some cases outright ignored, and what can only be called an overzealous application of Occam's razor seemed to be used consistently for all 4 cases, until pressure from citizens finding similarities in the crimes eventually made the police act. Causes: laziness, procedural incompetence

Conclusion

As you can see from these limited but rather continuous examples, a pattern of uselessness, laziness, corruption, and general incompetent actions emerges. Be it police procedures being retarded, the administration closing ranks to ignore internal crimes, police officers taking bribes and favours, or preferring to let an innocent white man die than be called a racist, the police in the uk are at best a laughing stock of what policing was supposed to be, and at worst they are a soft crime organisation in their own right.

As I've said, my own experience of the UK police has by and large been positive. That said, I cannot deny that the force as a whole has major systemic issues and serious endemic problems with corruption. There aren't a few bad apples here. There are bunches spoiled beyond saving in many cases. It is a disgrace to see an institution such as the UK police, one which was considered highly positive to society for 60 years prior to 1970, fall to the point where, through centralisation:

• organised crime can infiltrate it at every level (via freemasonry no less)
• the abuse and rape of young women goes unpunished for decades (and is even performed by members of the force)
• crime rates skyrocket while resolution rates fall to all time lows (95% unsolved in the past few years)
• police officers being charged with the most heinous of crimes
• police cover ups so much wrong that they themselves do
• almost no one ever goes to jail from the force, save those that the entire force hates (see Bastard Dave)

It is disheartening, but after learning about the Nickells case and the fact that 3 people's lives, 2 mothers and a little girl, could have been saved if the police actually did their job properly, i had to write this. I'm appalled by the levels of derp, greed, and womp-womp I've had to read while writing this post, and need to take a break from it tbh for a bit, but it had to be done.