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While we honor the sacrifices on D-Day, can we not **finally face** that D-Day was not necessary?? "Erwin Rommel was ready to turn over the Western Front to the Allies. "He was involved in a plot to assassinate Hitler and negotiate a surrender with the Allies." (media.greatawakening.win)
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– cancelzion 1 point 4 days ago +1 / -0

Compare the Weimar era to after the NSDAP took power.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 4 days ago +1 / -0

Peace transforming into a war of conquest. What is your point? The subject here is D-Day and the impracticality of taking up Rommel's flimsy offer.

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– cancelzion 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

The ethnic Germans that were in Poland wanted to be reunited, but the Polish government had other ideas.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 2 days ago +1 / -0

Off topic. There were plenty of ethnic Germans scattered throughout middle Europe, also in Austria, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia. So what? Germany lost World War I, which it had joined in starting.

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– ArmyLady [S] 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

FLIMSY?? An officer to turn over the front under his command was flimsy??? It was heroic! ROMMEL himself?? One of the most heroic and successful Generals?? Well that is the best he could offer, what he controlled, and with the Resistance offered a government free of Nazism. To end the war.

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

I guess I will have to read whatever book you read. What is it, may I ask?

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– ArmyLady [S] 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

OH my! Dozens! [Unfortunately my library is in storage due to a house flood.]

Read everything you can find on the Resistance: the Attentat of 1944, von Stauffenberg, Canaris and Oster re intelligence:

"Being the head of Nazi Germany's military-intelligence agency, he was in a key position to participate in resistance and sabotage the Nazi war effort. As the war turned against Germany, Canaris and other military officers expanded their clandestine opposition to the leadership of Nazi Germany. By 1945, his acts of resistance and sabotage against the Nazi regime came to light and Canaris was hanged."

"The White Rose (Weiße Rose) was a non-violent, intellectual resistance group in Nazi Germany. Operating from Munich between June 1942 and February 1943, they authored, printed, and distributed six anti-Nazi leaflets that condemned the regime’s atrocities and called on the German public to actively oppose"

"Dietrich Bonhoeffer was hanged on April 9, 1945, at the Flossenbürg concentration camp because of his active involvement in the German military resistance against Adolf Hitler and the Nazi regime."

"Catholic priest called Maximilian Kolbe. At Auschwitz he made the ultimate sacrifice, heroically volunteering to die to save the life of a stranger."

OH MY will you have to find these and many more books! MANY MORE books!

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– cancelzion 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

Why should we believe there was a plot to assassinate one of the world's greatest leaders? Who owns the school textbook publishing companies? And it's always the "winners" of wars who wrote the history books. The "winners" never, ever do anything bad, and the "losers" are always the most evil people to have ever been born.

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– ArmyLady [S] 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

The Attentat and other resistance to Nazism and attempts on Hitler's life were very serious and very real. I have read dozens of books about the German resistance etc. Biographies, accounts of people who were witnesses, later analysis, etc.

I frankly do not know what is in school "history" books about it. School books are not serious historical sources after all.

Start with a serious bio about von Stauffenberg. Claus Philipp Maria Justinian Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg who was shot on the day the coup failed. There is a statue of him in the Bendlerblock court yard where he was shot. Many others were arrested and killed later. "estimates of around 4,980 executions among the conspirators".

His wife: "Nina von Stauffenberg, the wife of Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg, was imprisoned by the Gestapo after her husband's failed assassination attempt on Adolf Hitler in 1944. She endured harsh treatment during her imprisonment and gave birth to her youngest child while incarcerated." In the chaos of the end of the war, her family finally located and rescued her: "She was reunited with her family after the war, when American forces arrived in Germany."

These are real people, whose stories of noble resistance deserve to be understood.

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