I worked as a contract provider for several years at my local VAMC and saw this kind of crap all the time. I eventually lost my job there because I made too many waves over the way patients were treated. I wasn't a team player because I was too much of a patient advocate. My patients are my first responsibility, not the "team" or rocking the hell out of that sinking ship. Incompetence does not even express what patients there have to deal with.
It wasn't incompetence. They know exactly what they are doing to all of us. It is pure evil and must be crushed to force change. That is why God gave me the difficult mission to bring every single one of them their Love lessons, and I will not fail.
I think that is true to some extent. But many of them actually think they are doing something noble and far too many cannot see their own biased elitist condescending attitudes. They treat vets like they should be the grateful ones satisfied with a few scraps. When confronted with things, that to you and I are just pure logic and common sense, they are confused and puzzled, not understanding what the problem is. I can't count the number of times I got the old deer staring into headlights look. It was actually quite extraordinary. They literally cannot see it. That is part of what made everything so frustrating for me trying to work with these people. The VA mindset is systemic institutionalized incompetence combined with laziness and an unwillingness to do anything about it. I suppose on some level you can call that evil, because in many ways it is.
Yes, there are some, usually at the top of the food chain, that on some level know what they are doing is not kosher. They just don't give a rat's ass. As long as their situation is not rocked so they can cruise to retirement with as little drag as possible. That is as far as they are willing to go. The rest are just brain dead and go along to get along with as little effort as possible. The few of us there that were trying to improve the situation for the vets either ended up quitting or being canned. We were not permanent employees with tenure that would almost take an act of Congress to get rid of. Most, like me, were contract workers. We were the actual grunts that did the work while the rest locked themselves in their offices planning their retirement or next vacation doing as little work as possible no matter how much their inaction affected the lives of vets. They are masters of doing as little as possible and then justify their inaction - like most government workers. It's all about the programs and policies, not about the actual product. The place has the most bizarre systems of metrics used to gauge results that I have ever seen.
There is no sense of common decency or consideration when dealing with others, especially patients. I have worked in many offices and clinics over the years, but the VAMC was unlike anything I have ever seen. I will give you an example: One morning I got to work and needed a few things copied to start my day. They kept the copy room locked up because they didn't want the printer paper walking out the door or someone using government copiers for their own personal use. So, the most logical thing was to have the person in the office right across the hall to unlock the door since they had the key. Well, it's kind of an unwritten rule at the VA that the first and the last half-hour or forty five minutes of the day, on the clock, was theirs to drink coffee, socialize, or waste time doing something other than their job. Try doing that in the private sector and see if you can keep your job.
Trying to get someone to unlock that damn door to do what I had to do before my patients started arriving was like pulling teeth from an alligator. Every person I asked that had the key sent me to someone else who did the same thing. After thirty minutes of trying to get that damn door unlocked, I ended up back to the same person across the hall that I first asked who had the key. I guess she was finally done with her coffee and yacking to passersby in the hall. She then unlocked the door. WTF!
This was the kind of BS I had to deal with every day. When it involved actual patient care, that is when I really made a stink because I take patient care seriously. This country owes our vets a debt that we really cannot repay. The least we can do is to put forth the effort to make sure they are taken care of like they were promised. I do not think that is too much to ask. But to most of those people at the VA, it seems like it is.
Thanks Chief. Good luck on your journey to seek justice. May God be with you fren.
God has been with me every single step of this decade long walk through VA hell. Soon this journey will be over. I firmly believe now that my case has been flagged the Whitehouse & Presidential levels a massive world of hurt is about to drop. It's just a matter time now. I am laying low for a while and waiting when the hammer drops. Hopefully within the next month or two, then I'm pretty sure they will all be kissing my backside trying to restore the care I need. I warned all of the one day they would all wish they had never heard my name. That day is not too far away now that President Trump and the Whitehouse have flagged my case making it the very highest priority for the VA once this shit hits the VA fan and spreads all across the country. I'm not to only one that had care stolen from me. I'm just the one God chose to force the VA to stop their criminal activities nationwide.
"I AM" coming for all of them.
I have no doubt that your case will be addressed. But as far as making any wider changes within that bureaucracy for others, sorry, but I am not going to hold my breath. Many have tried, myself included. I worked with a House member on the VA subcommittee. There were a few things addressed in Trump's first term. Allowing vets to seek outside care was one that was taken away when I was there. But I think little by little those changes have just been worked around and they are back to business as usual.
The only way to fix that system is to gut it and start over. The people within that system have no desire to change anything about the way they do things. It is a government run institution. In other words, not good at being efficient. Government run health care does not operate like the private sector, which in many ways does not necessarily work well either because of insurance. I have worked in both.
Hats off Chief for not giving up. I pray in your case there will be some accountability and justice for those that did you dirty.
I worked as a contract provider for several years at my local VAMC and saw this kind of crap all the time. I eventually lost my job there because I made too many waves over the way patients were treated. I wasn't a team player because I was too much of a patient advocate. My patients are my first responsibility, not the "team" or rocking the hell out of that sinking ship. Incompetence does not even express what patients there have to deal with.
It wasn't incompetence. They know exactly what they are doing to all of us. It is pure evil and must be crushed to force change. That is why God gave me the difficult mission to bring every single one of them their Love lessons, and I will not fail.
I think that is true to some extent. But many of them actually think they are doing something noble and far too many cannot see their own biased elitist condescending attitudes. They treat vets like they should be the grateful ones satisfied with a few scraps. When confronted with things, that to you and I are just pure logic and common sense, they are confused and puzzled, not understanding what the problem is. I can't count the number of times I got the old deer staring into headlights look. It was actually quite extraordinary. They literally cannot see it. That is part of what made everything so frustrating for me trying to work with these people. The VA mindset is systemic institutionalized incompetence combined with laziness and an unwillingness to do anything about it. I suppose on some level you can call that evil, because in many ways it is.
Yes, there are some, usually at the top of the food chain, that on some level know what they are doing is not kosher. They just don't give a rat's ass. As long as their situation is not rocked so they can cruise to retirement with as little drag as possible. That is as far as they are willing to go. The rest are just brain dead and go along to get along with as little effort as possible. The few of us there that were trying to improve the situation for the vets either ended up quitting or being canned. We were not permanent employees with tenure that would almost take an act of Congress to get rid of. Most, like me, were contract workers. We were the actual grunts that did the work while the rest locked themselves in their offices planning their retirement or next vacation doing as little work as possible no matter how much their inaction affected the lives of vets. They are masters of doing as little as possible and then justify their inaction - like most government workers. It's all about the programs and policies, not about the actual product. The place has the most bizarre systems of metrics used to gauge results that I have ever seen.
There is no sense of common decency or consideration when dealing with others, especially patients. I have worked in many offices and clinics over the years, but the VAMC was unlike anything I have ever seen. I will give you an example: One morning I got to work and needed a few things copied to start my day. They kept the copy room locked up because they didn't want the printer paper walking out the door or someone using government copiers for their own personal use. So, the most logical thing was to have the person in the office right across the hall to unlock the door since they had the key. Well, it's kind of an unwritten rule at the VA that the first and the last half-hour or forty five minutes of the day, on the clock, was theirs to drink coffee, socialize, or waste time doing something other than their job. Try doing that in the private sector and see if you can keep your job.
Trying to get someone to unlock that damn door to do what I had to do before my patients started arriving was like pulling teeth from an alligator. Every person I asked that had the key sent me to someone else who did the same thing. After thirty minutes of trying to get that damn door unlocked, I ended up back to the same person across the hall that I first asked who had the key. I guess she was finally done with her coffee and yacking to passersby in the hall. She then unlocked the door. WTF!
This was the kind of BS I had to deal with every day. When it involved actual patient care, that is when I really made a stink because I take patient care seriously. This country owes our vets a debt that we really cannot repay. The least we can do is to put forth the effort to make sure they are taken care of like they were promised. I do not think that is too much to ask. But to most of those people at the VA, it seems like it is.
Thanks Chief. Good luck on your journey to seek justice. May God be with you fren.
Thank you Mac.
God has been with me every single step of this decade long walk through VA hell. Soon this journey will be over. I firmly believe now that my case has been flagged the Whitehouse & Presidential levels a massive world of hurt is about to drop. It's just a matter time now. I am laying low for a while and waiting when the hammer drops. Hopefully within the next month or two, then I'm pretty sure they will all be kissing my backside trying to restore the care I need. I warned all of the one day they would all wish they had never heard my name. That day is not too far away now that President Trump and the Whitehouse have flagged my case making it the very highest priority for the VA once this shit hits the VA fan and spreads all across the country. I'm not to only one that had care stolen from me. I'm just the one God chose to force the VA to stop their criminal activities nationwide. "I AM" coming for all of them.
I have no doubt that your case will be addressed. But as far as making any wider changes within that bureaucracy for others, sorry, but I am not going to hold my breath. Many have tried, myself included. I worked with a House member on the VA subcommittee. There were a few things addressed in Trump's first term. Allowing vets to seek outside care was one that was taken away when I was there. But I think little by little those changes have just been worked around and they are back to business as usual.
The only way to fix that system is to gut it and start over. The people within that system have no desire to change anything about the way they do things. It is a government run institution. In other words, not good at being efficient. Government run health care does not operate like the private sector, which in many ways does not necessarily work well either because of insurance. I have worked in both.
Hats off Chief for not giving up. I pray in your case there will be some accountability and justice for those that did you dirty.