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"Is Barack Obama your birth name?" "Where were you born, Kenya or Hawaii?" "So you were never the legal president of America." Checkmate in 2 moves. BQQM! πŸ’₯ (twitter.com) 𝕃 𝔽 𝔾 ! ! !
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– SwampRangers 8 points 3 days ago +8 / -0

Those don't work. He probably was designated "Barack Obama" at birth. He might have been born in Vancouver or elsewhere (Kenya is a distractor) and the 2008 kerfuffle ensured that for awhile people think that irrelevant. Chester Arthur, who had dual Irish-American citizenship at birth, successfully deflected from this fact all his life, including using false distractor rumors such as his alleged birth in Canada when it was actually Fairfield, Vermont.

How about: "Did your 2007-2008 campaign admit you were a Kenyan citizen indicating you had British citizenship at birth?" The next question, posed instead to a Constitutional scholar like John Eastman or Leo Donofrio, would be "Does Jay's natural-born citizen clause inherit the unencumbered sole-citizenship provisions of de Vattel's 'Law of Nations'?"

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– What-Me-Worry 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

You must be new here..... squinting eyes Ah yes, there's the handshake icon.

He "may" have been born here, but he's NOT eligible to be president. A Natural Born Citizen is born on US soil of parents who are both already Naturalized Citizens.

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– dunderhead 1 point 3 days ago +1 / -0

1.) There's no precedent for this, you are just making it up.

2.) There have been several presidents and vice presidents who had foreign-born parents and it's not clear that all of them ever became American citizens at all: https://usa-green-card.com/get-your-green-card/us-immigration-guide/presidents-and-vps-with-foreign-born-parents

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– What-Me-Worry 2 points 3 days ago +2 / -0

u/#spitcoffee

That's pretty funny. Most of us here on this board are 20 years ahead of you. Try to catch up. πŸ˜‰Or maybe you're just a bot. πŸ€–

The founders of this country were well studied British subjects that saw that it was their DUTY to gain independence from England and free the new nation and citizens of irrational and oppressive king. They knew that England and the king would try many different ways to infiltrate the USA so they referred to Emer de Vattel's "Law of Nations".

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Emer de Vattel’s 1758 treatise The Law of Nations defines "Natural-Born Citizens" (or "natives") strictly as those born within the country's territory to parents who are also citizens.

Key details of this definition include:

🟒 The Principle of Jus Sanguinis: Under Vattel's framework, children "naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights".

🟒 Territorial Birth: To be a natural-born citizen, birth within the sovereign's territory is required, but it is paired with the necessity that the parents themselves are citizens of that same nation.

🟒 Historical Impact: This definition directly influenced early American legal thought and is often cited by constitutional scholars regarding the "natural born Citizen" clause required for the U.S. Presidency.

Vattel detailed these rules in Book 1, Chapter 19, Section 212 of his work. You can explore the full original text and context on the LONANG Institute's Vattel page.

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