Employers across America are reportedly being told to FIRE THOUSANDS of migrant workers
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They weren't allowed to bring in all their family like they are now. They also were not eligible for all the freebies they receive now and there was no such thing as sanctuary states. If we can get a handle on the system now, the rest of it can be somewhat easier to monitor and manage. Right now we just don't have the resources so targeting has to be managed and selective just to avoid all the legal insanity the Dems and RINOs have created. I remember when the ICE vans would raid industrial parks looking for illegals. I saw it. They also monitored agriculture looking for illegals and overstays. Yes, there were some that overstayed their visas, but it was much easier to manage when lawmakers let ICE actually do their jobs. It wasn't perfect, but it did work as well as any system like that could. It was certainly a far cry from what we have now. Cracking down on border crossing was the first step. But that is only as good as the administration in the WH.
You’re drifting away from the actual point.
I’m not defending illegal labor, and I’m not saying the current system is fine. I’m asking what replaces these workers, at what pay, and who absorbs the higher cost.
Also, the past was not as simple as you’re describing. Family based immigration has existed for generations. Some temporary worker programs limited dependents, but that is not the same as saying migrant workers generally could not bring family. Sanctuary policies are not new either, some have existed for decades.
Yes, ICE conducted major worksite raids. That part is true. But raids did not eliminate illegal hiring, visa overstays, document fraud, or labor shortages. Seeing enforcement happen does not prove the system was fully controlled.
So let’s stay on the real issue. Who fills these jobs after the workers are removed? If the answer is Americans at higher wages, then say that, but it also means higher prices, shortages, or some businesses closing during the adjustment.
This conversation has drifted off course because of getting sidetracked over your belief that over staying work visas not being the major cause of illegals. This isn't my opinion. This is something that every administration has said, since they started tracking it. It might be inconvenient for you to believe, but those are facts.
Trying to come up with all the ways illegal migrant work is different now isn't going to change that. The main way they become illegal is by over staying their visa. Case closed. Sanctuary cities and welfare offices isn't going to change that. Yes, obviously most illegal migrant workers didn't have that in the past, depending on how far back you go, because the country hasn't always had sanctuary cities or welfare.
But here's the big issue people are either ignorant over, or just want to ignore because it doesn't fit their narrative.
The government is making it so foreign unskilled labor is extremely attractive to businesses that need them. In the past year, they have slashed the minimum wage that must be paid to H2 visa workers from $15-20/hr to $8/hr and up, based on the job. And they've INCREASED the number of H2 visas by over 25% and are planning to increase them even more.
Obviously, this isn't encouraging the businesses that need unskilled labor to hike their pay rates up to whatever amount legal US citizens would deign to do that miserable work for. Which is a hell of a lot more than $8/hr.
And even if you don't want to believe it, workers over here on visas are notorious for just not leaving when their visas expire. ICE roundups and all that hasn't stopped it. Border control will never make a dent in it, because the majority of them aren't sneaking over the border.
All it's done is create a revolving door where we spend millions of dollars to kick them out when their visas expire, then bring in new ones on the same visas, and then have to round those up when they inevitably overstay their visa, kick them out, and bring more in to take over those jobs.
Over and over and over. Because that's what we're doing.
Exercise some of those awesome research skills and go dig into what DHS and ICE say about what the root cause of most illegals is. Then look at how they've slashed the minimum wage for H2 work, and then look into how many more H2 visas are being given now.
I think we are speaking of the same things - just not meeting the minds. I don't disagree with you. So, we will end it there. Have a good day and thanks for the conversation.
My insurance company which it is the crappy one United Healthcare only hires Indians. All companies including state and county jobs are Reducing our salaries way more and now we work harder than before plus all is way more expensive. Supermarket prices are really high taking advantage of American families. This sucks.