The Coordinated 180 on Trump: From Supporters to Critics – Same Podcasts, Same Script?
Interesting pattern among several "independent" voices who were all-in for Trump in 2024:
Tucker Carlson: Campaigned for and endorsed Trump heavily. Post-election: Calls the administration's foreign policy moves (esp. Iran/Israel) a "total betrayal," says Trump "betrayed us," regrets supporting him, and claims supporters are "implicated." Now interviewing/appearing with the others.
Candace Owens: Vocal Trump supporter and campaigner in 2024, previously called him a tremendous president. Now: "Embarrassed" she told people to vote for him, calls him a "chronic disappointment," says "we got played," and blasts involvement in Middle East conflicts. Frequent cross-podcast appearances.
Megyn Kelly: Praised Trump's past Iran handling and voted for him with no initial regrets on key issues. Recently: "Sick of this s**t," criticizes family "grift," questions MAGA's size/loyalty, and slams rhetoric/threats around Iran as irresponsible.
Shawn Ryan: Hosted Trump, voted for him expecting no new wars/Epstein files. Now: Criticizes perceived self-dealing, ethics issues in the admin, and expresses regret ("I f*cking voted for this s**t"). Cross-pollinating with the above group.
Notice the timing, the shared focus on pinning past corruption on the current admin, and how they're boosting each other's platforms while echoing similar lines on foreign policy and "betrayal." Could be genuine evolution. Could be something more coordinated. Either way, the flip is stark and synchronized.
What do you all make of it? Genuine shift or something else?
Paid retards.
I dont follow any of them.
I don't know much about Shawn Ryan, but the rest of them are highly intelligent and free thinking people who look at the evidence, come to their own conclusions and then make the information available to others. There is a reason they are among the top podcasts out there. (Candace is often #1) They have shown integrity in the face of terrible opposition. People who think for themselves recognize the truth from them and value it.
They could be that,but they are paid shills.
I see zero evidence that they have honest or integrity.
Anyone could be a paid shill - even you. Or you might be saying that because of somebody else who is a paid shill you repeat for free.
Evidence of being a paid shill would be required for that claim to be credible.
It's freeking obvious.
Sources for references used in this write up.
Tucker Carlson shift: https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2026/04/26/tucker-carlson-apology-trump-iran-war-republicans/89732906007/
Tucker Carlson: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/21/tucker-carlson-regrets-trump-support
Candace Owens: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5367995-candace-owens-says-shes-embarrassed-she-supported-trump/
Megyn Kelly criticism: https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5951606-megyn-kelly-criticizes-trump-family/
Megyn Kelly: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5821721-megyn-kelly-trump-social-media/
Shawn Ryan: https://x.com/i/trending/2079917166372004262 (resurfaced clip discussion)
Thanks for the high value post with sources!
Sometimes things are more complicated than they appear on the surface. I suspect undue influence has been exerted on Trump and he is doing the best he can with the cards he has been dealt. Blackmail and grift are the currency of Washington and its hard to get things done cleanly.
YW fren, thanks for commenting.
Trump needs to finish the war in Iran or make some Epstein arrests. That would shut these clowns up real quick.
Iran has no way to stop our bombings and hitting their 10 largest bridges and power plants would knock out their regime within a week. Stop playing nice, they clearly don't want peace.
You seem to be operating under the belief that Iran cannot do far more damage to the Persian Gulf than they have already.
Check other sources. Try Telegram instead of Fox.
Candace turned on Trump and promoted DeSantis.
Candace criticized Trump's support of the vaccine, but she also criticized DeSantis for his globalism. She was right on both counts.
Reality is more complicated than a football game with one issue and two sides.
https://revolver.news/2023/06/candace-owens-just-announced-her-verdict-on-desantis/ https://www.rawstory.com/candace-owens-blasts-ron-desantis-over-florida-governors-world-tour/
other than these people is there others that we should not follow?
I wouldn't feel comfortable saying "follow X person" or "don't follow X person". I'm hoping to bring this recent behavior change to others attention so they can decide for themselves. The four I have listed stood out to me as examples of questionable behavior and rapid change in opinion. I don't consider it "damning evidence" but I believe they have earned a high level of scrutiny for their actions. It all just reminds me of the "4 a.m. talking points", that Q referenced.