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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

But that also means he might have questionable motives.

If he really believes that turtle wanted a mess for nefarious reasons, and cares a out his country, he should go public with his account and any evidence he has.

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17nightsofdarkness 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yea I don't understand whats going on either. Especially since someone just sent me this. I'm trying to independently verify each instance, but I have a million other things to do today.

In a recent Pennsylvania federal case, Giuliani alleged “widespread, nationwide voter fraud” in his opening remarks. But under questioning from the judge, he retreated. “This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud.

In a separate state case in Montgomery County, Pa., a judge asked Trump lawyer Jonathan S. Goldstein whether he was alleging fraud. “Your honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step,” Goldstein said. “And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the [Democratic National Committee] or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith.” The judge pressed Goldstein to answer the specific question: “Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?” To which Goldstein replied: “To my knowledge at present, no.”

In yet another state case in Bucks County, Pa., Trump’s attorneys signed a joint stipulation of facts that explicitly admits that they are not alleging fraud, despite the President and his lawyers’ repeated public claims, according to Marc Elias, a lawyer working for Democrats on election-related cases. The stipulation of facts reads in part: “Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud in connection with the challenged ballots.” The stipulation also says they don’t allege or have evidence of “misconduct” or “impropriety” in connection with the challenged ballots.

On Thursday, a judge rejected the Trump campaign’s attempt to throw out absentee ballots in the Bucks County case, noting, “The parties specifically stipulated in their comprehensive stipulation of facts that there exists no evidence of any fraud, misconduct, or any impropriety with respect to the challenged ballots. There is nothing in the record and nothing alleged that would lead to the conclusion that any of the challenged ballots were submitted by someone not qualified or entitled to vote in this election.”

Arizona In a state case concerning votes in Maricopa County, Ariz., Trump lawyers again dodged and weaved. On Nov. 12, the same day that the President himself was tweeting about hundreds of thousands of votes being stolen from him, a Trump campaign attorney Kory Langhofer told a judge, “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. We are not alleging anyone stealing the election.”

While Trump has repeatedly claimed that glitches in voting machines were evidence of foul play, Langhofer also threw cold water on that idea, saying instead the case concerned “a limited number of cases” of “good-faith errors in operating machines.” The Trump campaign has since dropped this case.

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17nightsofdarkness 1 point ago +1 / -0

It made sense to me, Trump repeatedly said not to vote by mail and the left was terrified about catching covid if they voted in person. So I'm not surprised that most of the mail in ballot would be for Biden.

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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's not exactly true. Liberal publications made a huge deal out of it, but no one here listens to anything they say. Everyone just automatically assume anything negative they say about an R is false. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.

https://web.archive.org/web/20190611235218/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/us/politics/elaine-chao-china.html

In China, the Chaos are no ordinary family. They run an American shipping company with deep ties to the economic and political elite in China, where most of the company’s business is centered. The trip was abruptly canceled by Ms. Chao after the ethics question was referred to officials in the State and Transportation Departments and, separately, after The New York Times and others made inquiries about her itinerary and companions.

But she and her husband, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, have received millions of dollars in gifts from her father, James, who ran the company until last year. And Mr. McConnell’s re-election campaigns have received more than $1 million in contributions from Ms. Chao’s extended family, including from her father and her sister Angela, now Foremost’s chief executive, who were both subjects of the State Department’s ethics question.

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17nightsofdarkness 1 point ago +1 / -0

A lot is out there, it's just published by organizations that no one here listens too.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/transportation-secretary-still-owns-stock-she-pledged-to-divest-11559035921

https://web.archive.org/web/20190611235218/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/02/us/politics/elaine-chao-china.html

In China, the Chaos are no ordinary family. They run an American shipping company with deep ties to the economic and political elite in China, where most of the company’s business is centered. The trip was abruptly canceled by Ms. Chao after the ethics question was referred to officials in the State and Transportation Departments and, separately, after The New York Times and others made inquiries about her itinerary and companions.

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17nightsofdarkness 4 points ago +4 / -0

The sad part is, a lot has been exposed already. But it was done by liberal publications that no one in KY listens too.

This is what happens when we get so distrustful and partisan, we immediately dismiss information just based on who said it.

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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep.

This site actually gives a nice overview of the dark money situation. I've done a lot of research on this, as corporations buying our politicians (who needs to rig an election when you own all the players) is what got me awake and into politics in the first place.

https://www.opensecrets.org/dark-money/basics

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17nightsofdarkness 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's the nature of politics. "Those attracted to power should not hold it." Now, that's not true for everyone, but it's pretty damn close.

That's why we the people need to always be watching and demand transparency.

Citizens United needs to be over turned, corporations don't get to spend endless amounts of money.

And these political pacs that anonymously funnel millions of dollars need to be stopped as well.

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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

There's actually a fair bit of liberal reporting about this. Mcconnell was a poor farm boy who divorced his first wife to marry a wealthy woman who's family is heavily involved in the Chinese shipping industry and Chinese politics. Then mcconnell got her appointed as transportation secretary (conflict of interest anyone?) Her dad was also schoolmates with I think it was the previous Chinese president.

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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm sorry, but you're wrong. Disease enhancement from a vaccine was first discovered back in the 60s with the RSV vaccine, well before MRNA was developed. ADE usually occurs from non-neutralizing antibodies being produced by your body. Look up dengue fever and how catching one strain usually results in a mild case, but if you later catch one of the other 3 strains, you can become very ill. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/12/111221151713.htm

On a few occasions ADE has resulted from vaccination: Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) — RSV is a virus that commonly causes pneumonia in children. A vaccine was made by growing RSV, purifying it, and inactivating it with the chemical formaldehyde. In clinical trials, children who were given the vaccine were more likely to develop or die from pneumonia after infection with RSV. As a result of this finding, the vaccine trials stopped, and the vaccine was never submitted for approval or released to the public. Measles — An early version of measles vaccine was made by inactivating measles virus using formaldehyde. Children who were vaccinated and later became infected with measles in the community developed high fevers, unusual rash, and an atypical form of pneumonia. Upon seeing these results, the vaccine was withdrawn from use, and those who received this version of the vaccine were recommended to be vaccinated again using the live, weakened measles vaccine, which does not cause ADE and is still in use today.

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17nightsofdarkness 9 points ago +9 / -0

His whole defense for not voting for conviction, is Trump not being in office. But the power to have the trial while Trump was still in office rested solely with him. What a fucking piece of shit. Does anyone actually listen to that and think "yea, that makes sense."

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17nightsofdarkness 9 points ago +9 / -0

Turtle, YOU had the power to bring this to trial while Trump was still in office and you declined to do so. Why don't you just admit what everyone already knows, you hate Trump but you care more about retaining power then actually sticking by your 'principles.' Now you've literally pissed off everyone.

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17nightsofdarkness 3 points ago +3 / -0

He's definitely talking faster than normal

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17nightsofdarkness 9 points ago +9 / -0

Turtle definitely sounding like he thought Trump was guilty. Wonder why he didn't vote for conviction....

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17nightsofdarkness 1 point ago +1 / -0

Right, I was mostly responding to you saying that they won't get more than 10% of the global population vaccinated and yet we've already passed that mark in the US. They expect everyone to have access to a vaccine by midsummer. If it's people in Africa that aren't vaccinated, well I don't think that's going to have a big impact on the passports.

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17nightsofdarkness 1 point ago +1 / -0

Um, 11% of the US population has already had at least one shot...

I personally know 5 people that have already had 2 doses, 3 in a vaccine and most everyone else is impatiently waiting their turn.

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17nightsofdarkness 1 point ago +1 / -0

So I'm going ask the semi obvious question here. Vaccines are supposed to prompt your immune system to make antibodies. Your body also makes antibodies in response to contracting coronavirus. Soooo, why aren't you at risk for disease enhancement from your own body after catching one virus and then another?

Whats different about the antibody being produced?

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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

Exactly. Bold of everyone to assume SCOTUS will ac listen to the case this time.

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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

Once again. Not trying to be rude, but for a community that prides itself research, there is a lack of understanding basic facts. Trump has already been impeached. Twice

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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

Once again. Not trying to be rude, but for a community that prides itself research, there is a lack of understanding basic facts. Trump has already been impeached. Twice

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17nightsofdarkness 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not trying to be rude, but for a community that prides itself research, there is a lack of understanding basic facts. Trump has already been impeached. Twice What you're worried about is conviction

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17nightsofdarkness 3 points ago +3 / -0

Turtle was definitely in danger. He can barley walk lmao. I heard his secret service basically carried him.

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