Look let me ask you this, do you trust what NASA tells you? Plain and simple...
I doubt that you do... So here goes, all the information we get about planets and how they look and other shit we get from NASA... Now you will go "but what about amateur astronomers" well, what do they see? They see lights in the sky, and if they are honest they will say that they dont know what those lights are, the only reason you can claim they are other planets is because NASA said so...
Nautical navigation can be done on a flat plain, with north pole at the centre.
Shadows can be calculated in a same way with a closer, more localised sun on a flat plain as well.
Extended light hours work because the sun oscillates between both tropic of cancer and tropic of capricorn. When its close to tropic of cancer we get extended light hours in northern "hemisphere" when its closer to tropic of capricorn we get longer nighttimes.
When you reach the end of the flat plane....so you wrap around the edge and continue upside down?
That is the strawman argument. You believe in an endless universe, yet a plain has to have an edge? That shore you step on is the antarctica that surrounds our pond. What lies beyond that, we are not allowed to find out. Google the antarctic treaty, during the 1950's all countries of the world agreed on 1 thing, independent exploration of anything below 60 degrees is not allowed. Yes you can go to visit by paying 30k to a tour company, they show u penguins and some fake pole in the snow, and call it south pole. But thats about it. If you wanted to make an independent expedition, just the fees to apply for a permit would cost you over 200k, and they will decline the application and keep the non refundable fees. And nobody is allowed to even question this treaty until it runs out in 2043...
Smaller more localised sun could achieve the same effect on flat earth. Shadows experiment doesnt prove the earth is curved.
Im not gona get into the black holes thing, as they only exist on paper. You have to understand one thing, I do not subscribe to heliocentric model of the universe, you saying there is a black hole at the centre of the milkyway and we are moving to it, means nothing to me as I do not agree with it. The way we are taught that earth rotates around the axis, then flies around the sun, which hurls around the spiral arm of milky way is complete bullshit. If that were true, we would see 2 different sets of stars during winter nights and during summer nights as we would be looking at the opposite sides of the spiral arm.
Then that is your problem, and your cognitive dissonance kicking in, to preserve your ego from being hurt by the fact that you were lied to. So now you feel like me questioning your reality is a direct attack on you and your ego, which it is not. Thats why you try to put me down with your remarks, which is something someone who is not in control would do.
Will have to agree with you on the electric field thing. So overall you basically know you are being lied to, but just refuse to entertain that the lie extends to where you are on. Its cool, I'm not here to force you to believe me, I just want to have a conversation and push your limits. If you disagree with me and say you believe 90% are lies but dont want to believe the other 10% that is ok with me.
What I will say, I loved the idea of space travel, I loved the idea of traveling to other stars and other solar systems and other galaxies. I loved the idea of hyper jumps and sci-fi future of humanity once we become a multiplanet species. I watched ALL the documentaries on space, all the newest discoveries by nasa, all the newest telescope pictures. And then one day I saw experiments done in 18th - 19th century with hot air balloons, and pilots of those saying that earth looks like a disk with upturned edges. Which is only possible if the earth is a flat plain extending so far into the distance that you think the edge curves up to the eye line. From there on I did more research on flat earth, and came up on "Flat Earth Society" they are a government controlled opposition. They are a fake flat earth group that says retarded shit like "earth is a flat disc that flies through space in upwards motion thats how we get gravity." and shit like "all other planets are round but earth is flat and you can fall off the edge and get onto the back side of earth" which is bullshit. But I continued to research, and with time found more proofs for earth being flat, than there are proofs for the heliocentric model of the universe...
Look at the first second of the video. Flat and level as far as the eye can see. You are the one who has cognitive dissonance. The camera inside is normal camera, the camera outside has fish eye lens. You can see by how the curve expands and contracts slightly if you pay attention.
I just checked the other replies, you are the guy that thinks that there is a rat in the rocket video. So clearly that particular video of rocket in space is fucking bullshit. So is it such a massive leap of faith that all of them are bullshit? And is it that much more of a leap of faith that they are bullshit because rockets dont fly into space as it doesnt exist since the earth is a flat and motionless pain?
No need to be a smug little shit about this. Either make your point and dont be a cunt, if you want to have a conversation. Or be a dickhead and fuck off, why even bother talking to a retard that believes that earth is flat?
Not sarcasm, neil said so himself, you cant see it from a plane, it flies too close to earth to be measured (his word snot mine, look up on youtube) There is no evidence for curvature, but there is plenty to disprove it. (i name a few in replies here) another great one that disproved the curvature, is "The Old Bedford River" experiment. 6 miles of flat water 0 curvature.
Ahaha, love your wit bro! Yeah, I went into it the other way around, I delved into ancient civilisations, head first from young age. And as I grew older, I developed and autistic fascination with geo economics... So now most of my free time is spend either on economics or ancient civilisations (which lead to flat earth, since every single ancient civilisation knew the world was a flat plain)
You can not calculate for the curvature as there is no curvature. There is not a single proof of curvature existing. As I said before look on youtube, amateur weather balloons are sent 120,000 feet up and they show a perfectly flat horizon rising to eye level of the camera, proving for a FACT that either earth is flat and endless plane or earth as a planet is atleast 100 or 1000 times larger than it is claimed to be.
Holy crap you are wide awake! Welcome brother! :D
Yeah Austrian Economics for the win! My part of study as well! Check out Peter Schiff, he is a genius of Austrian Economics!
Anything written down as historic is a piece of bullshit. I dont believe anything they say is true history, cant trust them.
The marvels they built and created in ancient times are far superior in terms of technology than we got now! They could lift 2000 TONS rocks and move them around.. With our current technology we can barely lift such rocks.. forget about moving them.
Check out Graham Hancock and Randal Carlson on Joe Rogan 3 or 4 podcasts, 4hrs each, a marvel! (I dont like joe anymore, he became a gate keeper just like david icke and alex jones... but they still drip out true info out there, so they can still be used to gather knowledge)
Fuck Vatican and their pedo stanic worship bullshit. Pineal gland is the seat of the soul!
lol by 3rd graders good one
Here disprove this quickly while u at it
Ships go over the horizon is false, on youtube there are 100s of videos of amateurs using P1000 cameras to zoom in and see the whole ship again.
Curve of earth is 8inches per mile squared, that means anything past 100 miles should be behind 6,666 feet of curvature, yet on youtube you have people who use infrared lens to take photos of mountains at a distance of 175miles... Disproving the curve.
Check out the amateur weather balloons that people send up to 120,000 feet into the sky, with a camera (that doesnt have a fish eye lens) showing that horizon is perfectly level and there is no curve.
And I dont wear a mask, since there is no pandemic outside. But yet again, you are calling me names and not actually disputing what I have said. Do you even understand how a discussion or an argument works? You dont win it by calling me a masker, you just show that you are incapable of attacking the claims that I made.
I appreciate your kind words! Very difficult to find someone who can unbiasedly delve into a topic and try to entertain the idea.
Honestly I've started doing research on ancient civilisations when I was 7... Which lead me down so many rabbit holes... The Vatican has a massive library of stolen knowledge, they all should hang for hiding it from people!
I love Q and love Trump and have strong faith in the fact that all of this is about to be exposed... But being a "crazy guy" for so long, there is a small part of me that thinks "What if Q and all of this is a controlled opposition? they financed both sides of wars for centuries... what if this is the same?"
Also, look up Tartaria (a country and people who lived less than 200 years ago, whom have been completely hidden and wiped out of history), and the Mud Floods.
Yeah I remember that, you could see a city across 50 miles of lake, which they said it was a mirage and you were not seeing the city itself, you saw a mirrored image in the atmosphere due to atmospheric conditions being right.
Heh, I could ramble on a bit I guess. there was a map found in Japanese temple a few years ago showing other continets around our pond. All myths of elves, werewolfs and the like are true I think, in Christianity there is a dogheaded saint "St-Christopher" (in old murals depicted as a human with dog head)
This shows that at some point in our past we had access to those continents. Old slavic tales, talk of princes and adventurers adventuring 9 lands away (not kingdoms). The folklore across the world has something of the sorts in it as well.
Looking at all of this (some may be related and some may be not) my understanding of reality is this. The earth as we know it, is just a pond surrounded by ice wall of Antarctic and we are living in this pond on bits of land we call continents. There is further land outside the Antarctic Ice (research Admiral Byrd) which is being kept secret from us. For whatever purpose it doesnt matter, I know we are being lied to, I dont care why. Once we can prove the lie, we can figure out the why after.
If you believe the earth is a ball and antarctica is a continent on the bottom of that ball, you can believe that we are insignificant creatures hurling through space, an accident in infinite void. You can not leave and go anywhere, as there is nowhere to go, everything has been explored... Only space awaits, but its expensive so give nasa $62 million a day and shut up.
But if you know that antarctica is not a continent, but a shoreline that can be crossed further south and new lands can be reached, some people would try to adventure out over there, which WILL ruin the powerstructure of this pond.
There is too much to explain I guess, I could go on for hours tbh.
But overall, this is it: Think of learning how to ride a bike, you need training wheels... You, me, any other being is basically a God in the making, we are here to learn how to manipulate the energy and to grow. And the body with its nervous system is basically the training wheels of a bike, which allows you to learn how to manipulate energy. The "Elite" know this, and thats why the yare hiding the truth from you. For if the Earth is truly flat, we are the centre of creation, which means there is a Creator... (And this is coming from someone who was Christian, then atheist for many years, and now I am agnostic, leaning to believe that there is a Creator [maybe not the one described in the bible or other books, but there is one]) That is the realisation you come to with this. They are literally trying to hide the Creator from you, and that you are a God yourself.
(Or all of the above is insanity in a head of a retard [me], whom is locked up in a mental asylum hitting his head against the padded walls, thinking he is having a conversation on internet)
Lol, fuck off you clown.