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Elladar 0 points ago +1 / -1

No worries friend. I appreciate your constructive input and your perspective. the simple fact is, the scientist have been brought up on regurgitating the info they learned in a book. This is why stuff like "ships going over the horizon" can be easily proven to be false, its all about atmospheric density and line of sight perspective. If you take P900 or P1000 camera and zoom in, you will see the entire ship AND water further behind it, which should be over the curve. And to explain this, the "scientist" claim that it is a refraction... Which is provably false.

The thing is, it is easier to fool an intelligent person, because once you present some numbers to them and say some authority figured this out, they are more likely to not question it, and then they get their ego involved, that after 20 years of studying, anything you question them on, they will take it as a personal attack on them. Since they studied for 20 years and they know better than you or me. they got a diploma and university certification, which proves only 1 thing, they cna remember and regurgitate data that was given to them...

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Elladar -1 points ago +3 / -4

Yeah, just entertain it as a thought experiment, and if you do, you will come to realisation that there are more proofs for a flat stationary earth (maybe it is a planet, but it is 1000 times larger that we are being told...) Honestly, you just being openminded enough to entertain the idea is already more than all those who dismiss it outright...

As you said, they lie to us about EVERYTHING, but not this, not that the earth is round, they cant lie about this... Because the scientists agree on this... /s

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Elladar -1 points ago +1 / -2

I know you were, thats why I didnt go for it. And your gravity doesnt change the fact that a pressurised can of spray will dissipate that spray in all directions once the can is removed... Which is happening in a pressurised earth atmosphere. Now imagine what would happen to that spray in a vacuum of space...

Have you ever watched any sci-fi movies? What happens to a spaceship once the hull gets punctured? The air and atmosphere of the ship starts immediately escaping fast... Thats because the solid barrier separating the two failed... Earth doesnt have any solid barrier stopping leakage of atmosphere into the vacuum of space. And you would have to be insane to believe that gravity is holding it all together, and that gravity is far stronger than the power of vacuum of space to rip out atmosphere...

Check out videos on youtube of massive metal container gallons being crushed by sucking out the air out of them... now reverse it in your mind and that is what should happen to earth in outer space.

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Elladar -3 points ago +1 / -4

Ships go over the horizon? Disproved, on youtube there are 100s of videos of amateurs using P1000 cameras to zoom in and see the whole ship again.

Curve of earth is 8inches per mile squared, that means anything past 100 miles should be behind 6,666 feet of curvature, yet on youtube you have people who use infrared lens to take photos of mountains at a distance of 175miles... Disproving the curve.

Check out the amateur weather balloons that people send up to 120,000 feet into the sky, with a camera (that doesnt have a fish eye lens) showing that horizon is perfectly level and there is no curve.

Satellites are just upper atmosphere weather balloons.

You cant see curve from the tall building, its impossible, cant even see it from a plane (this was said by Neil degrasse tyson.. so dont shit on me for it)

What do you mean "why would we bother?"

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Elladar -2 points ago +1 / -3

Just shows that you dont even understand how two pressurised systems act when they meet each other. Buoyancy doesnt apply to the question I asked above.

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Elladar -2 points ago +1 / -3

Get a piece of paper, A4 or whatever, place a dot in the middle, and scatter some dots around the edge of the page... now, the dot in the middle is our solar system, the dots on the left are stars we see during winter nights, the dots on the right are stars we should see during summer nights. Doesnt matter how far they are, they are not the same dots that are on the left side. But you are being told "no it doesnt work that way, the stars are SOOOO far away, that what you see on paper is false"

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Elladar -1 points ago +1 / -2

Yahoo answers as your source... And even in it, it says ancients believed there to be a sphere above us to which the stars were fixed... the ancients knew the earth was flat.

That answer is jsut to make you stop questioning anything... "Oh its too big, we cant see any difference because we are so small"

Why dont you use that little research time to research flat earth? But then again, even you trying to disprove me, still makes you research bits anyway, so its ok by me.

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Elladar -1 points ago +1 / -2

Ok, but would you agree that it does disprove the heliocentric model that we have been taught in school?

As for disproving the sphere, that is easy to do.

Ships go over the horizon? Disproved, on youtube there are 100s of videos of amateurs using P1000 cameras to zoom in and see the whole ship again.

Curve of earth is 8inches per mile squared, that means anything past 100 miles should be behind 6,666 feet of curvature, yet on youtube you have people who use infrared lens to take photos of mountains at a distance of 175miles... Disproving the curve.

Check out the amateur weather balloons that people send up to 120,000 feet into the sky, with a camera (that doesnt have a fish eye lens) showing that horizon is perfectly level and there is no curve.

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Elladar -3 points ago +1 / -4

What is absurd is looking up in the sky to prove what we stand on. Its like saying the billiard balls are round therefore the table they are on must also be round!

I honestly agree with you that this sounds retarded, I was in your position about 10 years ago... I watched all of the scifi shit, learned planets and other solar systems, the big stars out there in the vastness of void. And thought all of this shit was absurd, until I looked into it more.

Look, I can not convince you, this is a conclusion you have to come to yourself. But how about this, I can disprove the heliocentric model of the universe in 2 sentences, ready?

When earth rotates around the sun and the seasons change, why do we see the same stars when it is winter and when it is summer? The earth is supposed to be of the other side of the orbit, with the night side facing into the opposite direction during summer and during winter...

Below the E is the earth and S is the sun

Night sky < - E in winter --- S --- E in summer - > Night sky

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Elladar 1 point ago +2 / -1

I think this one has some other nasa unexplained in it https://www.bitchute.com/video/wn8mvznMQBUA/ have a look. Shows people and items being photoshopped into the livefeed from nasa...

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Elladar -2 points ago +1 / -3

What kind of an engineer? If large scale, do you take the curve into the account when you build things?

Watch this and give me your thoughts https://www.bitchute.com/video/wn8mvznMQBUA/

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Elladar 0 points ago +2 / -2

See, you are open to possibility that there is some fuckery going on, here is another good one, what does a rocket propel against to move forwards? And how can a fire exist to propel the rocket if there is no oxygen in space to allow ignition?

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Elladar 0 points ago +2 / -2

that is one way to answer ridiculous statements. How about we play a game? Watch this, https://www.bitchute.com/video/wn8mvznMQBUA/ and then come back and tell me your thoughts? Lets see what you gona say after.

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Elladar -1 points ago +1 / -2

how can a positive pressure system exist with a negative pressure system (space) without a solid barrier? if you have a can of spray and remove the metal can, does the spray stay in shape of a can?

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Elladar 2 points ago +4 / -2

Watch this... https://www.bitchute.com/video/wn8mvznMQBUA/

All of your questions have been answered 100s of times, you jsut never bothered to look it up yourself.

flat earth theory is a huge fucking waste of time and brain cells. i cant even...

Takes a real man to own up and accept that you could of been fooled your entire life

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Elladar -7 points ago +1 / -8

Neil degrase tyson says you CANT see it from commercial flights... so, you sir are a brainwashed liar...

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Elladar -1 points ago +1 / -2

Fuckign legend in the wild!

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Elladar 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yh, very interesting stuff if you ask me. Who knew the movie "Matrix" was based on real life?

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Elladar 1 point ago +2 / -1

Thats the idea, while at same time under this system, ordinary people are considered "Dead, lost at sea" while still living... Goes into it quite deep in the videos. A great watch if you got 2hrs to spare.

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Elladar 1 point ago +2 / -1

That's what I thought as well, but apparently before this was Q only, then the flow of pedes came from TDW and all of a sudden anything goes.

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Elladar 1 point ago +2 / -1

Posted this a few months ago, but post was deleted by mod "Not on topic of Q", saw something similar posted recently, decided to repost it again.

Part 2 - https://www.bitchute.com/video/04pVOh9y2uS4/

About 1 month later, same speakers.

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Elladar 3 points ago +4 / -1

That one was better than the freaking bike level... I hated that level so much...

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