Been somewhat out of the loop, so while I am aware of the Supreme Court agreeing to take up the Immunity case and the Deep State and their puppets having a collective meltdown as a result, I am still a bit confused on why they are melting down so badly.
From what I know, the Supreme Court did not even rule on the case yet; they just gotten started and I have been told that the process will take months and that no progress on Jack Smith's work can be made in the meantime.
Is that what is the Deep State and the Left melting down about: a delay in their timeline? How poor their plans must be if they can't even tolerate a delay in the timeframe?
I have posted this in the General thread, but I was advised to spin this off into its own thread, after fleshing it out some more. As I said then: I am getting a bad feeling that this whole Taylor Swift stupidity is a trap to damage Q/MAGA.
Brett Cooper just posted a new commentary video just now, talking about this controversy with Taylor Swift. She also gave her opinion that the attacks from the Right/MAGA against Taylor Swift might be a suicide mission, especially in terms of optics. It is probably a devil's advocate video on why we should chill out on Taylor Swift. You may see the video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cit8PIio4v0
I really suggest watching the video. However, if you are on short on time, here is a choice quote from her video that should help summerize the points:
But back to the point: how does slandering and demonizing Taylor Swift help our cause when so many young women love her and are influenced by her? Lauren Southern made a good and scary point and she said "She's going to swing leftward harder than ever before (obviously because politics is typically pushed by how alienated you feel by one side) and then everyone's going to take a Victory lap for 'calling' their own self fulfilling prophecy and will remain perplexed by female far-left swing." That's not really a world that I want to live in but if we keep going on the path that we're headed down it might just happen.
We do not have to idolize Taylor Swift. I'm not telling everybody that you need to be fans of her, or you need to love her. We should not idolize her, but attacking her in the way that we are is just punching down and it is a terrible campaign strategy just let it be because in the grand scheme of things she is not a bad influence. (My note: Brett then goes on listing other Satanic musicians like Meg Thee Stallion, Sam Smith, Doja Cat, and the rest of them)
What is even more intriguing are the comments to the video:
To me, this just seems like a stupid battle for Republicans. It's true for literally any famous musician....if they have a large influence and a predominantly young fanbase, then of course their political beliefs will influence their fanbases. Especially when they're super young and impressionable. Why are they fixating so much on Taylor Swift specifically? Maybe instead of constantly complaining about famous celebs leaning left, create some genuinely beautiful and right-wing art to have more conservative celebs in the spotlight.
I think this whole Taylor Swift situation is getting blown completely out of proportion. ||| its the Republican curse. every single time we gain ground with normal people, some idiots fuck it all up by attacking things the average person loves and calling it an op or saying it's demonic ||| religious conservatives are responsible for most of that, they were the biggest reason why I never supported conservatives before the woke/sjw movement pushed normal liberals like me away from the left. I'm pretty socially conservative these days but I still cannot stand religious conservatives though.
I am a die-hard Chiefs fan, Travis Kelce is one of my favorite players, but I have absolutely no interest in Taylor Swift other than the fact that she makes my favorite player happy. But these whole conspiracy stories are stupid and frankly becoming predictable. Omg, people need to quit worrying about things that really have no concern to them. And it doesn't matter, what would be the whole point anyway? Just as you said, she's going to vote for Biden more than likely and endorsed him. Who cares? Nobody I know is going to base their vote on who she endorses. It's just another way to raise views and all that and frankly it's extremely destructive to the right
So glad to see someone talking about how bad the Republicans can be when it comes to engaging with young people, especially young women. Unless this turns around, and fast, we will permanently loose a huge portion of the voting population for years to come, and it will do significant damage to our country. -a Gen Z girl Conservative
Me? I don't care about Taylor Swift nor NFL at all, any more than the average person here on GAW (I'm more interested in classic rock, harder rock, heavier metal, and synthwave). My current mission is to get Trump into office and get the Satanists punished for the hell they put us through. However, I am concerned that our fixation on Taylor Swift is hindering that mission by turning away potential recruits and driving them into the Demonic Rat's/GlobalHomo/Satan's open arms. While it is fun to dunk on the enemy's celebrities, we should not let that get in the way of our mission. If it will hinder us, then we should stop doing it...
So: thoughts? Is this whole mess with Taylor Swift destroying the Great Awakening? I am asking because I know you all love to rag on Taylor Swift as of the late. And while it is fun within our safe space here, I worry that it is undermining or undoing the Great Awakening process and hurting Trump's chances.
Also, the worst thing you can do to an artist is to ignore them and to deny them publicity, not attack them and feed them publicity. If we really want to hurt Swift, ignore her, don't listen to her music, don't talk about her any more than it is necessary...
Nowadays, it seems that the new Demonic Rat plan is to float Gavin Newsom as the 2024 candidate instead of Joepedo. I want everyone's honest opinion: What is are Trump's chances against Newsom in the 2024 election? Because, low-key, I think Trump WANTS Biden as his opponent, since it is practically cakewalk to steamroll him over, unlike Newsom who has the advantage of age and a bit more charisma than Joepedo.
Early this week, I was challenged to provide a summary essay of the strong evidence against Andrew Tate that says he did commit Human-Sex-Trafficking. After four days of writing and researching and more writing, the essay is complete for your consumption.
-The Basics:
To lay down some foundation to this essay, I shall be using the AMP Model to determine if Andrew Tate has committed Human-Sex-Trafficking. The AMP model is defined in this PDF here and is pretty consistent with all applicable international legal standards. To quote the PDF, in case you cannot open it up:
The Action-Means-Purpose (AMP) Model is a device used to illustrate and articulate the federal definition of a “victim of severe forms of trafficking in persons,” contained in 22 USC §7102(8). For the corresponding criminal offenses, see 18 USC Chapter 77.
Human trafficking occurs when a perpetrator, often referred to as a trafficker, takes any one of the enumerated Actions, and then employs the Means of force, fraud or coercion for the Purpose of compelling the victim to provide commercial sex acts or labor or services.
At a minimum, one element from each column (on the table in the PDF) must be present to establish a potential situation of human trafficking. The presence of force, fraud or coercion indicates that the victim has not consented of his or her own free will.
Remember that under federal law, any minor under the age of 18 years induced into commercial sex is considered to be a victim of sex trafficking— regardless of any indicators of force, fraud, or coercion.
In addition, I will be referencing credible videos from other social media networks that support my claims. For videos that are rather big, I will put timestamps to the relevent parts. Also included in the evidence bank are official documentation with evidence that have been released by the Romanian authorities for public consumption.
-P = Purpose:
To start proving that Andrew Tate very probably, almost certainly, have committed Human-Sex-Trafficking, let's start with the easiest item to prove: purpose. Did Andrew Tate undertaken his actions with the Purpose of compelling the victim to provide commercial sex acts or labor or services?
The answer is yes, especially with regards to the part about providing commercial sex acts. Andrew Tate has committed his actions to force women to do commercial sex acts for his monetary gain, and we can gain all of that from his own words that are recorded on video, some of which are listed below:
“...To work on webcam for me... And that’s how I got rich.” (Time Stamp 0:22)
Also backing up the accusations are text-messages. This PDF is a transcribed order of the court, and within the document are transcripts of text messages retrieved from the phones of the victims, Andrew Tate, and his criminal co-defendants. Page 35 have some text-messages between one of the victims and Andrew Tate, with Andrew Tate outright confessing that the girls that the victim is staying with work on OnlyFans and TikTok pornographic content, and are generating significant amounts of money.
These pieces of evidence and more proves that Andrew Tate and his accomplices are committed their crimes and actions to force women to do commercial sex acts for their monetary gain, fulfilling the Purpose part of the AMP method. And from the dates on those transcripts, they are still committing these crimes up until several months ago when they are first arrested. It is likely that if they are not arrested at that time, then this crime will continue onward for a very long while...
I want to pay special attention to a very significant lie that Andrew Tate spouted during his interview with Tucker Carlson: the lie that he is being charged for “recruiting girls to make TikTok videos, and stealing money from the TikTok views.” From his videos, we know that he has done far more than just TikTok videos. He has a pornographic webcam business and last time I checked, TikTok is not readily considered to be a “pornographic webcam business”. From the transcripts, we know that he also have his girls do OnlyFans videos, and OnlyFans is practically a pornographic video site nowadays. In fact, the TikTok video part is practically only used to help advertise the more hardcore stuff, which is not on TikTok itself. This lines up with that I have read long ago: most pornographic businesses and sex workers do not place their main content on TikTok; they mainly use it as an advertising tool to lure people off the website and into their “juicy content” websites.
-A = Action, M = Means, and the Loverboy Method
The other two parts of the AMP model are Action and Means. Did Andrew Tate take any one of the enumerated Actions in that PDF’s chart to obtain or acquire women to compel into providing commercial sex labor? Did Andrew Tate employed the Means of force, fraud or coercion to compel into providing commercial sex labor? The answer to both is yes.
The two videos I have listed above have Andrew Tate confess on video that he recruited or induced women and girls into his monsters’ lair by seducing them on social media, making them feel that they have something special going between the two of them. He even mentioned “obtaining” by name during the second video. These confessions are backed up with witness testimonies and electronic communication transcripts obtained by the Romanian authorities and listed in the transcribed order of the court, whose PDF I have linked above. This is proof that Andrew Tate fulfilled the “Action” portion of the AMP model.
While the two videos listed above barely touched on the Means portion of the AMP model (that is admittedly debatable; maybe someone one else would see it better, and I might see it better after I am DE-stressed from this week’s stresses), the witness testimonies and electronic communication transcripts much better explain how Andrew Tate and his associated lured women over to their clutches via lies and fraudulent promises of marriage and family-creation, fulfilling the Means portion of the AMP model. Several times throughout that document, it was described that many of Andrew Tate’s victims were promised by Andrew Tate that they would get married and start a family in a foreign land, only to be then groomed into sex-work, reinforced by Andrew Tate and his accomplices emotionally manipulating the victims and sometimes committing or threatening acts of violence against them. All of this more than adequately fulfills the Means portion of the AMP model.
I want to shine special attention to the “loverboy method”. During his interview with Tucker Carlson, Andrew Tate said that the loverboy method is “just being nice to girls”. However, he is either being obtuse or untruthful when he said that. Per this [website]:(https://www.carlsonattorneys.com/news-and-update/loverboy-andrew-tate)
The loverboy method involves a pimp, sex trafficker, or abuser targeting vulnerable, poor, and often young women with the impression of creating a romantic relationship. The loverboy will seduce the girls with kind gestures, love bombing, attention, and gifts. Everything about the relationship seems too good to be true. These people will try to make their victims believe that they can offer them a better life. They are deceived, only to be sexually exploited and abused later on.
In the two videos linked above, Andrew Tate describes his methods, which is pretty much textbook “Loverboy Method”. In addition, there is a third video where Andrew Tate also described his methods in greater detail, and self-incriminate himself as a user of the “Loverboy Method”. The court order’s annotated transcripts of the electronic communications help back up what was reported in the videos...
I want to make a special note about one of the girls Andrew Tate trafficked. From this video clip, Andrew Tate was talking about the girls in his possession. In that clip, Andrew Tate mentioned that one of the girls is “working” for him and within his webcam business for six years and she is now 21 years old. Doing some simple math shows that the girl is fifteen and a minor when she started, very probably sexual-in-nature, work for Andrew Tate. Per the AMP model PDF, the requirements to prove the means part of the model is wavered if a minor has been sex trafficked. That means Andrew Tate is very probably guilty of sex-trafficking this particular girl…
When all of this analysis and evidence is reviewed as a whole, then it is very probable, almost a certainty, that Andrew Tate and his accomplices has committed human-sex-trafficking...
-Concluding thoughts
Somewhat off-topic from the discussion to determine if Human-Sex-Trafficking has taken place, there is another special note I want to mention: I have learned that, recently, Andrew Tate’s more hardcore fans have taken a screen shot of some of the officially-released witnesses’ testimonies that paints a damning picture of Andrew Tate’s crimes, cropped and chopped up the testimony so it looks like the victims attempted to frame Andrew Tate, and tried to pass off the altered screenshots as the genuine items. Aside the absolutely disgusting nerve of them to attempt to lie and deceive like this to influence all of us, the plan would not work since it is easy to look up the original transcripts and testimonies, and see the whole picture.
You might be asking: why? Why I am so focused and intense about this issue with Andrew Tate? Well, as I have noted in the past few days, Andrew Tate is regarded a bit fondly by the majority within the MAGA, Q, and GAW social networks and influencers, including Catturd and il Donaldo Trumpo, two of the biggest influencers on Truth Social. I also get the feeling that the wider MAGA-body population is not that aware of the crimes Andrew Tate has committed. However, we, as of the semi-recent past, have become pretty hostile to human-trafficking of all kinds, especially of minors, to the point where movies that are hostile to human-trafficking, like the Sound of Freedom, are winning big over the groomer movies.
The hypocrisy our group as a whole seem to demonstrate is plain to see, and it is not lost to people who are outside the MAGA, Q, and GAW network. While nothing can stop what is coming, it can be indefinitely stalled for a long time if we take the wrong actions. I am really really concerned that Andrew Tate's human trafficking crimes, and the conservatives/MAGA/Q/GAW hypocrisy in "tolerating" his crimes while going after others like Epstein for the exact same crimes Andrew Tate committed will be our doom if we do not separate and disavow Andrew Tate from our midst…
Final thoughts: It would be wise to vet, exhaustively, our personal heroes and celebrities before we stand up and fight for them. Also, the enemy or our enemies are not always someone whom we want as our friend.
It's your favorite Devil's advocate here. I have a question for you all:
Do we have guarantee that the $16 million fine included within the censure attempt on Schiff would survive a constitutional challenge on 8th Amendment grounds (prohibits cruel and unusual punishments and prohibits excessive fines)?
As you know, twenty House Republicans voted against the measure to censure and fine the Watermelon head. Everyone got upset and the influencers fanned the flames. What the influencers and the rest of the sheep on social media and here won't tell you is that there might have been a potential problem with the $16 million fine. The problem that it runs the risk of be considered excessive or being considered cruel and unusual per 8th Amendment provisions.
Rep. Massie mentioned those concerns in this article here, which gotten very lost in all of the noise:
I know that we masterbate to the thought of watermelon head getting exploded like this. However we risk looking stupid if the fine gets challenged and thrown out, along with the censure if the fine is attached to the censure.
I have the feeling that if the censure is presented by itself, then I bet many of the 20 "treasonous RINOs" will vote the right way. The fine complicates things needlessly.
And I have special blame to place on DC Draino and other influencers on Truth Social and here on GAW for omitting that part in their social media posts. Lying by omission is still lying and each lie weakens is and does a disservice to MAGA and the Great Awakening.
When you report on something, I want the whole truth, not half truths designed to be fed to the bleating sheep amongst us.
I'm asking as a devil's advocate to see why we REALLY want the Jan 6th tapes. I have a feeling that we were emotionally manipulated and gaslit on the importance of the Jan 6th tapes and why we really want and need them.
Be warned that I will be far more active in responding in this thread than normal, so be prepared for a rapid session of responses from me.
Just a bit of a devil's advocate post here (been doing this a lot lately it seems.):
I think we should back down from attacking MTG and other reps who voted for the debt deal for now.
It seems, based on the angry and temperamental posts on Truth Social, that the whole movement became real emotional and temperamental over the debt deal, to the point where they are lashing out needlessly and alienating (potential) allies.
Recall a previous post where I have pointed here:
https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/16bPLidf3n/devils-advocate-post-maybe-the-m/c
I have mentioned before that if this debt deal is so disastrous and wrong as they say, then it is really odd that Trump did not utter a single word so far about the deal. A quick updated search, done today, on his Truth Social revealed that this is still true: Trump still has not mentioned the debt deal at all. And if he does not mention it now, then it is now unlikely that he'll bring it up for the foreseeable future. This is probably evidence that the deal is not as bad as what people on Truth Social, especially the social media influencers, say.
If Trump does not mention or quip about the debt deal, then we should probably follow his example and drop the issue until he gives the go ahead. And we should probably stop attacking the Reps who voted for the deal as RINOs since it can be implied that Trump is a RINO through his silence and inaction on the issue.
If you need a hint on what we should be focusing on: his practically nonstop-posting about exposing Ron DeSantis should give you a clue.
Speaking about MTG specifically, I have been notified about her backpedaling over the Jan 6th Tapes release.
I know people are turning against her over this and the debt deal, but I do think we should back off for now on this issue too. At this point in the game, what point the tapes will serve?
If it is to dismantle completely the narrative around Jan 6th, the entire trove of tapes might be unnecessary for the job. The narrative has crumbled with whatever evidence we have right now and the small portion that Tucker Carlson did a good enough job that further releases might not be too helpful. Plus, consider the possibility if we have released the full archives of the tapes, but the release then does not have the impact or results we wanted. What happens then? We blew a potentially powerful card that we will not get back and we might not have the guaranteed desired results.
Plus, there is the possibility that maybe she is telling the truth that uncontrolled releases of the Jan 6th tapes might put innocent people in jeopardy and that she probably do not want that on her record.
A last minor point on this issue is that Trump is also strangely silent on the Jan 6th tapes issue too. If that is the case, then maybe we should follow his lead on this issue too and drop it until he gives the go ahead.
Lastly, I want to talk about influencers. They are great at delivering news to you all, but keep in mind that there is a big possibility that they don't vet their news sources well. There is also a big possibility that you will not get in-depth analysis on the situation and rely on emotional hot-takes that generate even more emotion, activity, and possibly income. Influencers rely on their audiences for attention and income; you will not hear them saying anything that will risk all of that, even though it is something that NEEDS to be said. Therefore, if the influencers continue to peddle toxic-emotions without anything else meaningful, then I suggest start unfollowing some of them. They probably wouldn't even notice at all.
Sounds like blasphemy to your ears? Probably. But hey, I am a devils advocate, here to make a statement for you all to ponder for today:
The McCarthy-Biden Debt Ceiling deal is not as bad as they (the Conservative/MAGA influencers and personalities) say.
I have been monitoring my Truth Social feeds all week long ever since the deal was first announced. Everyone is upset and very angry. However, within the noise, there is an interesting data point that practically everyone else is ignoring for some strange reason:
Trump.
President Donald J. Trump did not make a single word about the deal at all ever since it was first announced over one-hundred hours ago. You would think that, with a deal supposedly this bad, Trump would be blasting the deal all over his Truth Social account. But, that did not happen. Over one-hundred hours and not a peep about the deal. Instead, he used all of that time to blast DeSantis and being in campaign mode.
Adding to all of this is that there are rumors (I was not able to confirm them as of time of writing) that Trump verbally praised McCarthy for his hard work.
Another minor but significant data point that stick out like a sore thumb is Rep Lauren Boebert. She did not vote at all on the deal, despite vocal opposition to the deal. Kind of odd don't you think. Maybe Trump gave her marching orders.
Based on all of this, I have long arrived at the conclusion that Trump is probably taking action behind the scenes to reduce the severity of the bill while racking up a few wins for ourselves. The logical follow-up is that the current McCarthy-Biden Debt Ceiling deal is probably not as bad as the influencers and personalities say. The specific details are unknown to me as of the time of writing, but I have faith Trump will deliver...
The title says it all, but I was monitoring the temperature and situation on Truth Social. The anger is... overwhelming. However, I did not see anyone doing a detailed analysis or dive into the McCarthy-Biden Debt Deal, or someone did and it is getting lost in all of the noise and anger. Also, no offense, but I have a bad feeling that some of the anger is astroturfed, or artificially generated.
That being said, Did ANYONE did a deep dive and breakdown of the McCarthy-Biden Debt Deal that everyone is foaming at the mouth about? This is a Q-board, so I would think that people here already did a dive into the text, but no such analysis existed here as far I can tell. And if such an analysis was done, is it as bad as it looks?
Posted in the general discussion, but I think this deserves it's own post.
So, I was listening to Clownfish TV's (pop culture commentators that has a good feel on the culture wars) recent episode discussing the mess between DeSantis and Disney, when one of the hosts mentioned, briefly, that "right-wingers" are now attacking anime on social media.
This is surprising news for me, so I want some evidence if this is true and what is going on, because I have a feeling that there is more to this beneath the social media surface that might negatively impact our GreatAwakening.
Nothing turned up so far when I searched YouTube and Truth Social was equally quiet on that front, so I was wondering if it was a hoax.
In light of recent events and for the purposes of making sure we are not just sheepishly following the crowd off a potential cliff, I shall impose this question as a devil's advocate:
Why we on GAW are certain that gold standard is going to solve all of our problems? Also why are we certain that a return to the gold standard is Q's plan?
I am fully aware of Q's "Gold will end the Fed" quote, but it does not explicitly say that the White Hats will abolish the Fed and bring us back to the Gold Standard. It is probably a simple statement of facts like saying the Sky is blue and the sun rises in the east.
Ever since Mike Lindell sued McCarthy to get all of the tapes released and for being pissed off that Fox News only got access, and especially since the past few hours when people here start to criticize Tucker Carlson for not doing more on Jan. 6th, a controversial question pops into my mind:
WHAT exactly is the end goal for us in getting the rest of the tapes released without discrimination?
If it is to destroy the regime's narrative on Jan. 6th, then I would think Tucker Carlson's expose this past Monday did a fine job in knocking over a few key narratives that the rest will collapse in due time, with the government's response adding fuel to the fire.
If it is to release the Jan 6th prisoners, not exactly sure how releasing all of the videos would help is the courts system is as corrupt as you say.
If it is something else, then explain that something else, because the Underpants Gnomes from South Park has a better plan than we have since we can't even get a good step three down, much less a step two.
I am getting a feeling that we are getting gaslit on the importance of the Jan 6th tapes and the result will damage our movement even further...
A devils advocate post here: I am suspicious at this recent "dooming" over the Ohio Train Derailment, especially since the MSM never seem to shut up about it nowadays after ignoring it for so long.
It is a deja vu moment to the Chyna virus. At first, silence from the MSM, then 24/7 coverage of the Chyna virus to drive everyone insane with fear and accepting of the clot shot.
I wonder what tyrannical policy the government has cooked up to take advantage of this disaster that warrants sudden and constant media coverage?