Supposedly, the documents are from 50th birthday scrapbook that Ghislaine Maxwell herself authored for Epstein, so 2003 dated.
However, it's a scrapbook, so no hard dates for many of the stuffs in the book, including the two pieces of "evidence" the Dems are parading around.
In fact, I have noticed that the pages are scanned into the PDF flat without tearing or holes that would've indicate that the pages were part of a more permanent book (like a sketch book or a spiral notebook). I suspect that Ghislaine's scrapbook uses a dedicated scrapbook album, which is essentially an oversized photo album where one can insert or remove sleeve pages from a plastic sleeve without damaging the page.
With that in mind, it might mean it is impossible to completely verify that the page is genuine and was not replaced down the road...
Get it! Just try: WHO would create a typed message like this to fit into a sketch of a female mannequin? A busy executive? His social secretary? WHO would take the time to do something like this?!? I cannot imagine, in my experience in the real world . . . anyone who would take the time do actually DO this!
Understood, but then Ms. Maxwell somehow have enough time on her hands to compile this scrapbook herself, with creativity that demonstrates that she's not a novice in scrapbooking or collage-making (as someone who has dabbled in both as a hobby, I can tell if someone has some skill and creativity).
And even if it is for real?? SO WHAT? It is a joke birthday card, not a proof of any wrongdoing against any young woman, for crying out loud.
Tell that to the legions of trolls and clueless accounts I need to smack around online...
I know he's clean, but I need some counterexamples to prove he did not write that letter, or that novelty check photo is not what they claim it to be.
In case I need to explain my position to people online.
Understood, but I want such hard counter examples in case I need to explain my position.
This is an issue that needs to change simultaneously from the top down and bottom up...
I understand that this is a problem that needs to be attacked at multiple angles, not just the cultural angle.
The reason for this thread is to brainstorm ways to attack the problem at a cultural angle, because from what I have seen, we gotten a lot of parts of a solution from a medical standpoint, a law enforcement standpoint, and political standpoint.
But I noticed that the cultural standpoint is neglected and I feel that, to truly win against an enemy, we need to alter the culture so that the enemy will not grow back again.
Ridicule and mockery doesn't work on people who are hyper violent against their critics.
Sometimes, I think the hyper-violent ones have a bark worse than their bite. I have been following quite a few anti-Muslim Christian Apologists for many, many years now, and they have plenty of threats of violence made against them by Muslims and their allies. However, those Christian Apologists are still here. What does that tell you?
Maybe the threats of violence are a bluff to get people to shut up.
the deprogrammig must come from a feelings based approach.
Aren't embarrassment and humiliation not feelings too?
Also, we tried to be nice to them, and they still kill us. Maybe a change of tactics is in order?
(Whole thing about Iraq and Afgha.)
Interesting point to consider. Although I think we weren't using ridicule and mockery in an intelligent way, plus, there is a ton of factors at play that caused the insurgencies and a war of attrition.
I think that truth and grace will be far more effective than any other weapon.
I actually think of truth like explosives: how you use truth can determine how effective it is.
We can just confine the truth to leaflets and podcasts-that-no-one-listens-to, but then the truth will not get too far, and their effectiveness will be limited. It will be trying to blow up an enemy fortress with just firecrackers: the firecrackers have explosives in them, but it is not really damaging the fortress.
On the other hand, we can pack the explosives into missiles or the biggest bombs, and really blow apart the enemy fortress. In the same way, we need to deliver the truth in a form and way that will leave a huge impact that the enemy can't ignore or cover up.
And I think that a great way to help improve the impact is to use humor and use mockery and ridicule of the enemy to improve the impact. I want to know if my take is correct.
"I think it will only make them furious and vindictive."
They are not furious and vindictive already?
"I wish we could find a path to the compassion that will lead them to Jesus and wholesome lives."
Agreed, but I am also of the opinion that part of the obstacles that is blocking to the path to Jesus is what I call "toxic empathy":
people are compelled to "be kind" to trannies despite not being sincere, which feeds the ego and pride that
a.) prevents the tranny from admitting that they were wrong, or
b.) prevents the person, who is considering becoming tranny, to think that they are on the wrong path.
Sometimes, the bite of ridicule or mockery is enough to destroy those obstacles, destroy unholy pride, and make a way for Jesus to take over.
What is wrong is their religion, Islam.
It was well known that their prophet, Mohammad, is a pedophile who had sex with a nine-year-old (after marrying her at six years old). This is all recorded within their sacred texts, so there is no use denying.
The religion holds up Mohammad as the model person that every Muslim seek to emulate and die for, so of course pedophilia will be condoned, institutionalized, and widely encouraged.
When you read the full story you will notice that he was set up with a girl who was underage with an authentic but fraudulent DL showing she was 18+
Is this the probable reason why Gaetz did not pursue the AG seat a vigorously as he could have? The fact he had sex with underage girls?
That lie is: "Trump made a campaign promise to release the Epstein Files."
I saw those statements, those are not a strong "I vow" or "I promise" statements. It is more of a "I would" statement, and would is defined as "Aux. Verb used to express desire, intent, or a wish".
My point that Trump never actually promised to release the files stands.
This post is to punch through a lie that is going unchallenged at the moment.
GAW's activities MUST be based in fact and truth; otherwise, our mission is meaningless.
I am mostly staying out of this Epstein BS, since nothing productive will get done arguing about it while tempers are high and minds clouded, but someone on X brought up a good observation that punches through a lie that has been repeated by the bots and trolls:
While we have a ton of bots and trolls yelling at Trump for breaking one of his most significant campaign promises with regards to the Epstein files, people with good memory would recall that Trump never actually promised such a thing during the rallies (a quick check with ChatGPT and Grok affirmed the fact that Trump never made a campaign promise at a rally to release the Epstein Files).
A quick look at the Agenda 47 documentation, which is the official written agenda, mission objectives, and campaign promises of Donald Trump's second term also confirms that Trump never made such a promise to release the Epstein Files.
rncplatform.donaldjtrump.com/
So, anyone who is claiming that Trump broke one of his campaign promises with regards to the Epstein Files is a liar and should be treated as the enemy!
the most well-known and a Patriot victory here will send shockwaves throughout the world.
You sure about that?
That is a very hubristic take. Why do you think Epstein is the keystone where a victory will have world-changing consequences? Just because GAW said so? Just because influencers on X and Truth Social said so?
There’s a whole lot of signal
you mean noise?
What she actually said? Do we have a transcript?
Anons here are getting their panties in a bunch.
And this is becoming a major embarrassment.
Notorious fake news site posts a fake memo and practically every drops their spaghetti and tendies while the fake news a-holes laugh at us for falling for such a troll.
It seems that people keep on forgetting that rule, and I do not know why is it hard to learn this rule!
It is almost like many have learned nothing and will continue to learn nothing about how to guard themselves against psyops and Deep State BS.
At this point, I am muting or blocking people who are going REEEE mindlessly to this news. I bet a lot of them just mindlessly post memes and repost other people's content for clicks and attention, so it is no big loss.
We don't know yet.
Misinformation, of the genuinely misinforming kind, is flying around like crazy now. I suggest applying the 48 hour rule.
Something tells me that Trump is noticing that ICE resources are spread out too thinly and is rerouting manpower to do the most good with what he has.
Consider this as triage, taking care of the most fire priorities FIRST!
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1930703865801810022
This post is what set Catturd off.
"Bu...But many people will read the Epstein files more then after this feud, and it will to prove Trump's not a pedo!"
You all really think people are going to crack open and read the files like a novel and see for themselves? People are still not picking up the Bible and reading that, even with a massive push by us Christians. And no one is joining book clubs, much less the adults of this nation.
Reading and critical thinking skills is on the decline in America, unfortunately. More than likely, what's gonna happen is that people will tune in to their favorite news programs or influencer or podcast and get their information there, which will more than likely reinforce their biases.
So DEMS-13 will still be convinced Trump's a pedo,
The Patriots will say Trump's not a pedo,
And we will still not go anywhere meaningful.
In fact, we might have gone backward since we wasted a ton of resources, political capitol, and sanity points on this very pointless exercise. Which is worse than doing nothing.
If he skips, the ICE will kick his ass, and kick the ass of whomever let him out.
And something tells me that the Trump admin has been planning to make sure he does not get loose, or if he somehow did, more people will go down with him.
I'll add it to the master list.
Not in that Truth Social Post though; it is too long.