Lots of debate over the supposedly incoming NESARA/GESARA systems. Legitimate redistribution of stolen wealth back to the people, release of suppressed tech and natural cures, and return to constitutional repub...OR the second beast?
I figure as long as I don't have to renounce my God and embrace any one world religion, I'm good.
My thoughts are this, for starters the bible clearly describes the mark so that Christians do not succumb to the deception:
Revelation 13 16-18
16 And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name.
18 Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.
So we know from this its plain as day, the mark is physical, it will be put on either the right hand or their forehead, and you will be completely unable to buy or sell unless you have it. If nesara does not meet any of these criteria AT ALL then it is likely safe. I'm a believer that the holy spirit has not yet made clear some these prophecies to us, especially the meaning of 666 but the fact you can't buy or sell without the mark makes sense to our current economy.
Also the verses prior explains a very significant scenario:
13 And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth, telling them to make an image to the beast that had been wounded by the sword and yet had lived.
15 The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed.
This means everything revolving around this mark is religious in nature and tyrannical as all hell. Until we start to see this style of tyranny, I think we are ok.
The bible holds truth and allows us to discern events happening today from scripture in the bible, we just have to read it. I do believe that our current world state meets all the criteria for the antichrist to rise up and deceive and its in this period of renewal where the most will be deceived and willing to embrace a christ like figure with open arms. just remember, first comes the anti christ, then comes the real christ with his judgement don't fall for the first one.
Not sure I agree that we KNOW the mark will be physical. I've seen arguments that the mark will be a spiritual mark directly from God. Literally a "sign" on the forehead that marks you as either a believer or non-believer. Not that I would ever allow anyone to put a chip or vax into me. But it doesn't seem quite so cut and dried to me.
Plus, and I'm sure I'll get some flak for this one, but who's to say there isn't some level of disinfo in the Bible? It was written by MEN after all, and when has ANY man been infallible? There is evidence that has been suppressed showing that many chapters were supposedly deleted. What if there was an agenda to obfuscate some details to control us and keep us living in FEAR?
I know that there's an argument for people doing their own research.
But think about it this way.
You are one person who knows what you're trying to communicate. If you actually do it on here, then you will save hundreds, if not thousands, of people the effort.
If you consider God's world as a whole, then you've now ensured that significantly less energy has to be used to achieve a significantly larger impact, which is obviously beneficial for the greater good.
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before.
Matthew 24:23-25
I don't think it's Jesus directly, but I'm sure that Q was guided by God or the Holy Spirit or Jesus. Either way it was probably divine. Time will tell.
I could see a big re-invigoration of Christianity.
Entirely peaceful protest by Trump supporters. Turning the other cheek every time, staying peaceful, patient and kind. Only for evil to expose itself like never before.
The calmer we are, the more they overreact to try and force a reaction out of you American patriots.
As a mathematician I know that God is in fact real. Never cared for organized religion.
But if God saves us in precisely this manner then I might just consider spreading the word.
Not because I care about religion, but because it would then become the most efficient tool to teach people about what should be obvious about the human spirit.
Pleases share your math-God theory, quite interesting! Also, the non-violent protest idea is something that's occurred to me. Like, if everyone in DC just refused to leave the other night. Even as riot police came, they all just stayed. If they were tear gassed, they just stayed. Also imagine millions of them getting on their knees and praying as the police were being violent to them. It would be quite a sight. The problem is how do you get millions of people to do this all at once.
interesting thought. Q is not Jesus. (I know you don't believe that and were just posting for the discussion) but that's a very dangerous line if thought IF one were to really believe it. That would set Q up to be the/an antichrist. That also plays into the narrative that MSM tries to paint on us... that we are a cult and Q is our leader.
Well it's a funny thought that we were called autists by Jesus.
LOL
Go read the book of revelation again. The second coming requires a strict procedure.
yep whats happening now closely mirrors the destruction of the whore of babylon and what happens next is the rise of the antichrist and beast system.
Lots of debate over the supposedly incoming NESARA/GESARA systems. Legitimate redistribution of stolen wealth back to the people, release of suppressed tech and natural cures, and return to constitutional repub...OR the second beast?
I figure as long as I don't have to renounce my God and embrace any one world religion, I'm good.
Thoughts?
My thoughts are this, for starters the bible clearly describes the mark so that Christians do not succumb to the deception:
Revelation 13 16-18
16 And the second beast required all people small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, 17 so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name.
18 Here is a call for wisdom: Let the one who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and that number is 666.
So we know from this its plain as day, the mark is physical, it will be put on either the right hand or their forehead, and you will be completely unable to buy or sell unless you have it. If nesara does not meet any of these criteria AT ALL then it is likely safe. I'm a believer that the holy spirit has not yet made clear some these prophecies to us, especially the meaning of 666 but the fact you can't buy or sell without the mark makes sense to our current economy.
Also the verses prior explains a very significant scenario:
13 And the second beast performed great signs to cause even fire from heaven to come down to earth in the presence of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived those who dwell on the earth, telling them to make an image to the beast that had been wounded by the sword and yet had lived. 15 The second beast was permitted to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship it to be killed.
This means everything revolving around this mark is religious in nature and tyrannical as all hell. Until we start to see this style of tyranny, I think we are ok.
The bible holds truth and allows us to discern events happening today from scripture in the bible, we just have to read it. I do believe that our current world state meets all the criteria for the antichrist to rise up and deceive and its in this period of renewal where the most will be deceived and willing to embrace a christ like figure with open arms. just remember, first comes the anti christ, then comes the real christ with his judgement don't fall for the first one.
Not sure I agree that we KNOW the mark will be physical. I've seen arguments that the mark will be a spiritual mark directly from God. Literally a "sign" on the forehead that marks you as either a believer or non-believer. Not that I would ever allow anyone to put a chip or vax into me. But it doesn't seem quite so cut and dried to me.
Plus, and I'm sure I'll get some flak for this one, but who's to say there isn't some level of disinfo in the Bible? It was written by MEN after all, and when has ANY man been infallible? There is evidence that has been suppressed showing that many chapters were supposedly deleted. What if there was an agenda to obfuscate some details to control us and keep us living in FEAR?
I know that there's an argument for people doing their own research.
But think about it this way. You are one person who knows what you're trying to communicate. If you actually do it on here, then you will save hundreds, if not thousands, of people the effort.
If you consider God's world as a whole, then you've now ensured that significantly less energy has to be used to achieve a significantly larger impact, which is obviously beneficial for the greater good.
Nope. And Q did not say we won't believe who has been talking to us. He said something like, wait until you find out who has been talking to you.
I don't think it's Jesus directly, but I'm sure that Q was guided by God or the Holy Spirit or Jesus. Either way it was probably divine. Time will tell.
When JESUS returns all will see HIM! So, don't think Q is JESUS!
and also don't forget that first there must come an antichrist, the lawless one.
Very True, according to Scripture!
I could see a big re-invigoration of Christianity.
Entirely peaceful protest by Trump supporters. Turning the other cheek every time, staying peaceful, patient and kind. Only for evil to expose itself like never before.
The calmer we are, the more they overreact to try and force a reaction out of you American patriots.
As a mathematician I know that God is in fact real. Never cared for organized religion.
But if God saves us in precisely this manner then I might just consider spreading the word. Not because I care about religion, but because it would then become the most efficient tool to teach people about what should be obvious about the human spirit.
Pleases share your math-God theory, quite interesting! Also, the non-violent protest idea is something that's occurred to me. Like, if everyone in DC just refused to leave the other night. Even as riot police came, they all just stayed. If they were tear gassed, they just stayed. Also imagine millions of them getting on their knees and praying as the police were being violent to them. It would be quite a sight. The problem is how do you get millions of people to do this all at once.
interesting thought. Q is not Jesus. (I know you don't believe that and were just posting for the discussion) but that's a very dangerous line if thought IF one were to really believe it. That would set Q up to be the/an antichrist. That also plays into the narrative that MSM tries to paint on us... that we are a cult and Q is our leader.
Anything is possible. You might be interested in this... http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/q.html
I would put my money for Q to be JFK Jr before I would Jesus. Just my opinion.
...no