I've now watched 3 separate clips. A C-Span clip, an ABC News clip, and some other random clip on Youtube don't know who it belongs to. Here they are:
Random one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIprRLYcteA&t=11s
ABC News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiNAly9CKSs
C-Span: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvbQR887W0&t=8h12m15s
In the random one I only see/hear 10.
ABC News, I can't even tell they cut out and around and talk too much.
On C-Span I THINK I can hear 19, but at one point there is what seems like 30 seconds of silence between shots, and the video seems to cut weird during that time a few times so maybe the last two shots occurred during those glitches? (funny I was watching it for a while before then and no apparent glitches. the timing of these glitches are seeming less and less coincidental).
So here's what I can say for sure are differences:
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The number of guns. In Trump's it was 4 guns present, 3 guns used 7 times each. In Biden's it was 3 guns present, 2 guns used (still unclear to me how many times).
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The intervals. 3 seconds between shots for Trump. 9 seconds for Biden.
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What the soldiers calling out the shots (not manning the guns) did BEFORE the salute. In Trump's there's a lot of pomp and procedure, including calling out the 21 gun salute so everyone can hear, and announcing at what intervals they would be shot (3 seconds). In Biden's there's no announcement beforehand. No explanation. Nothing said about intervals. They just yell once and the shooting starts. Not sure what all of that means, but it's what I've got for now.
*edit - maybe 4. Does the location matter? I don't think Trump's was at the cemetary. Have others in the past been there? Does that matter?
"Immediately after the presidential oath, the United States Marine Band will perform four "ruffles and flourishes", followed by "Hail to the Chief", while simultaneously, a 21-gun salute is fired using artillery pieces from the Presidential Guns Salute Battery, 3rd United States Infantry Regiment "The Old Guard" located in Taft Park, north of the Capitol. The actual gun salute begins with the first "ruffle and flourish", and "run long" (i.e. the salute concludes after "Hail to the Chief" has ended)."
And yet It happened at Arlington with 3 canons
That's why it matters so much. These guys practice ceremonies like that to exhaustion. They neither change the protocol on a whim, nor do they forget what to do or mix stuff up.
If you look at the regulations, what they did for Bi Den's "inauguration" seems to be very similar to the salute for funerals. Also note, the 21 gun salute is usually at the capital for inaugurations. Bi Den's was in Arlington cemetery, which also fits the funeral thing.
The only conclusion I can come to is that it was not really an inauguration from the military perspective. The military is not just showing no respect for Bi Den, but Bernie Sanders as well. I think maybe the whole USA corporation thing has some truth to it, and none of the civilian government is considered legitimate at this point.
I don't know what is going on, but I really wish I did.
The salute also didn't happen immediately after the swearing in, which was the case for Trump and Obama's last term (I went back and watched them)
Yeah, I noticed that. It was almost like the Old Guard said, go ahead and have your fake inauguration. We have a funeral over here in Arlington, so we're going to do that instead... and the demoncraps pretended that the funeral salute was for the inauguration... weird.
I watched the inauguration, and I was super confused. The lady said there will be a 21 gun salute. Then there was an awkward silence. I didn't hear anything.
Did I misunderstand her? Does anyone else remember this?
That is almost exactly what I recall while watching it live on NBC. After the oath someone said, "Please be seated..." At that point I expected some kind of military presentation, but it was just awkward silence with people looking around all confused.
Okay thank you! I thought I was nuts. I was like, can we just not hear the salute???
It was so weird! So when did this salute supposedly occur? I turned it after Pence left.
The salute did not occur immediatelt after the swearing in, which is usual.
I wanna find out if the 21 gun salute was for something else and biden just grifted it. That would explain why there is major differences in the procedures followed. What if that 21 gun salute wasn't even for biden at all what if it was for something else but biden and the media are jumping on board. Just a random thought? Im gonna start digging and find out where it is custom to hold the presidential 21 gun salute.
Seems possible enough.
Perhaps it is for Bill Clinton
Just a real pity that every shot fired missed Biden!
I recorded the PBS broadcast of the inauguration so just now watched the salute and counted 21 shots fired... however, I do believe the use of 3 cannons, 9 s pause between shots and doing it at Arlington Cemetery was a message to Biden that the military does not recognize him as POTUS
I suspect that as well. Wish we could get some firmer confirmation on that though. Hard to ignore the NG turning their backs to the motorcade, or the Marines refusing to salute though.