Rand did not do that (2012) without his father's ok. It was a gamble, and he knew a lot of Ron Paul folks would go against him for doing it. But don't think for a minute that he did it WITHOUT Ron's approval. Ron did not get the nomination, we all know all of the crap that happened to him in 2008 and 2012 and how the media blacked him out and made him out to be a "wacko". You're absolutely entitled to your opinion and I completely understand and respect it. I know a lot of other RP people who still hold that against Rand to this day. I don't. Rand has done a lot of good for our country and he's one of our best fighters. He didn't turn his back on Trump. Not at all. He's one of his biggest allies. We can just agree to disagree on this stuff.
I appreciate your moderate response, since I was getting a little heated. It was just disappointing to hear his speech on the 6th when he certified the fraud. My instinct is that he is not necessarily a terrible person, but it also seems like he consistently bends the knee at these crucial moments. I understand strategically why he endorsed Romney, but his father was still in the race and I just don’t think anyone would have held it against him had he stood by his dad. It might have only been symbolic, but there is still something important about that in my opinion.
I just don’t think anyone would have held it against him had he stood by his dad.
I know, I go back and forth on that, myself. Do you remember anything about Romney at the time doing some sort of underhanded stuff about his dad, I distinctly remember the rumor going around that Rand was forced to back Romney or Romney would do something to try to destroy his father. It may have just been a rumor, (and I'm talking real sleazy stuff, because we both know Ron Paul is clean as a whistle. It would have been all lies. I've always had this weird feeling that it was more than just Rand trying to "get ahead" or kowtowing to the GOP, etc. I don't know, that thought has always stuck in my mind.) Anyway, I also go back and forth a bit on what he did on the 6th, to be honest. There are not many people that I trust, and I honestly do trust Rand. I guess we'll see how things play out. Peace. and thanks for the convo.
Rand did not do that (2012) without his father's ok. It was a gamble, and he knew a lot of Ron Paul folks would go against him for doing it. But don't think for a minute that he did it WITHOUT Ron's approval. Ron did not get the nomination, we all know all of the crap that happened to him in 2008 and 2012 and how the media blacked him out and made him out to be a "wacko". You're absolutely entitled to your opinion and I completely understand and respect it. I know a lot of other RP people who still hold that against Rand to this day. I don't. Rand has done a lot of good for our country and he's one of our best fighters. He didn't turn his back on Trump. Not at all. He's one of his biggest allies. We can just agree to disagree on this stuff.
I appreciate your moderate response, since I was getting a little heated. It was just disappointing to hear his speech on the 6th when he certified the fraud. My instinct is that he is not necessarily a terrible person, but it also seems like he consistently bends the knee at these crucial moments. I understand strategically why he endorsed Romney, but his father was still in the race and I just don’t think anyone would have held it against him had he stood by his dad. It might have only been symbolic, but there is still something important about that in my opinion.
I totally get what you're saying and this:
I know, I go back and forth on that, myself. Do you remember anything about Romney at the time doing some sort of underhanded stuff about his dad, I distinctly remember the rumor going around that Rand was forced to back Romney or Romney would do something to try to destroy his father. It may have just been a rumor, (and I'm talking real sleazy stuff, because we both know Ron Paul is clean as a whistle. It would have been all lies. I've always had this weird feeling that it was more than just Rand trying to "get ahead" or kowtowing to the GOP, etc. I don't know, that thought has always stuck in my mind.) Anyway, I also go back and forth a bit on what he did on the 6th, to be honest. There are not many people that I trust, and I honestly do trust Rand. I guess we'll see how things play out. Peace. and thanks for the convo.