I've always followed Icke and felt he was on to something pretty serious and the way the MSM worked overtime to ridicule him was very telling (as per Q).
It seems he hasn't done much research into the actual group. He seems to have just seen the "tRUst tHe pLAn" talking points and jumped to conclusions. Just because we follow Q and trust the plan doesnt mean we also sit idly by and do nothing at the same time. We call our representatives and make our voices heard etc.
The difference as far as I can tell in terms of the other examples he cites is that Q has provided tons of proof, beyond statistical possibilities. Also David's main contention is that this "Drake" guy (a Q-type whistleblower back in 2011) used to give dates as to when the bad guys would get arrested and of course it never happened - well Q never does that. Q never gives specific dates as to when things happen.
Q also encourages free thinking, not what to think.
What I cant work out is if Icke is now a disinformation agent; if so has he always been or is he now compromised, or is he just being ignorant on this and annoyed Q is taking away his schtick?
As I keep telling myself, if Q is fake and a psyop why nuke it from the internet? Why not allow it to fester and draw in the mainstream to lull EVERYONE into complacency, as he suggests? Why wouldnt Trump just distance himself form it from the beginning? Youtube allows moon landing conspiracies and aliens etc but not Q?
I feel like now either Q is fake or Icke is and I'm genuinely upset now either way.
Im not opposed to Christ as an enlightened being, or as a symbol of righteousness or even as a god, but not The God.
My major problem is with the Catholic Church and what it teaches. It had a monopoly on Christianity for too long and I believe they have distorted the truth. The Eucharist really bothers me, I think the C.C. is trying to lead people astray and normalize the eating of flesh and drinking of blood.
Are you familiar with the Gnostic teachings of Christ?
I believe the Gnostics had a closer truth to what Christ was teaching. The Catholic Church exterminated all of the Gnostics and labeled them as heretics and human sacraficers. My point being, if you have a problem with the Catholic Church, then Gnosticism may warrant a look. If the C.C wanted the Gnostics gone that badly they had to of had some Truth the C.C. wanted buried.
Im not trying to convert you to Gnosticism, I don't consider myself one so I have no objective other than show you another option to the C.C.'s version.
I have a major problem with the Catholic Church as well; especially the office of the papacy. Many Biblical scholars throughout history have likened the office of the papacy to that of the antichrist.
With regard to Christ being an enlightened being or a symbol of righteousness, Christ himself equated Himself to God: “verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). So either Christ was a delusional fraud or he was speaking the truth.
Im glad to hear you also have a problem with the C.C. I think all of us who follow Q see through their deception.
But Jesus also said:
Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
It seems as if Hell has prevailed against Jesus' church, they turned it into an abomination.
My point being that the C.C. has altered the tex/translations to lead you astray. They use fear of questioning their text as a control device. A loving god would not mind us questioning them. Any loving parent encourages their children to ask questions. Thats what free will is about.
Yes, you are correct. Jesus did state “thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” The C.C. used this statement to justify establishing the papacy with Peter being the first pope. However, having grown up under a Protestant church and studied the Protestant reformers, the view they hold is that Christ was talking about the statement Peter made prior as being the rock on which Christ would build his church.
“And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
I don’t think the gates of hell have prevailed against the true church. The true church is not a building or denomination but the body of believers. But the C.C. and the papacy is pure evil. Especially all the stuff I’ve found out about them since Q.
Good point.
Maybe Jesus was saying that the C.C. is not his church because it would become obvious to us that the C.C has become the gate to hell.
Where are you getting that the church is our body?
I do think we all fell from Heaven to Earth as a learning opportunity and we all will attain perfection and return to Heaven as Jesus did, Jesus is a symbol of our journey. We are god(s) in human form, and the C.C and the DS are terrified we will find that out, because then they can no longer control us with their convoluted religion. We are more powerful than them because we are of God.