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Past time that we organize a Constitutional Convention of the states to impose term limits on house and senate as well as impose voter integrity. (www.thoughtco.com)
posted 5 years ago by 1PhantomStranger 5 years ago by 1PhantomStranger +146 / -0
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– ProudOfAmerica 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Term limits are a band-aid. The proper fix is to prosecute corruption.

Plus, do you really want to term limit good people? (once they start getting elected)

If we had a few younger folks like Trump, would you want to kick them out?

We need to stop treating symptoms. Go after the root cause.

Prosecute corruption.

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– Out0fAmmo 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Yes, I want term limits on "good people". Good people can become corrupted. Every political position ought to be term-limited.

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– Gold-Eyed-Cat 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I feel you. But let's be brutally honest here. Congressional bills haven't been written by members of congress in a very very long time.

 

We all subconsciously know this. Today's congress members ask the Mars rover team if they can see where Neil Armstrong planted the American flag. They think overpopulated islands might flip over.

 

In all honesty, the last item of legislation written by congress was sometime around the mid 1990’s. Modern legislation is sub-contracted to K-Street. K-Street Lobbyists write the laws; congress sells the laws; lobbyists then pay congress commissions for passing their laws. That’s the modern legislative business in DC.

 

Term limits are cool. The system is still cancer.

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– rouxleaux 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Problem is anyone that is up in that place (swamp) for so long gets corrupted. Regardless of how good you start out being. Two things that would fix it all instantly, prosecute corruption (we agree here for sure) and then they DO NOT GET PAID TO SERVE. This is how it use to be so no one wanted to stay longer than needed. No one should go up to Washington and leave several times richer.

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– ProudOfAmerica 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Anyone who adds millions to their net worth while in Congress is highly suspect.

It 'can' happen honestly, but often times it does not.

Multiplying your net worth should be a huge red flag that triggers a mandatory investigation and detailed documentation available for transparent public review.

I would argue only one of your points... People should be paid to serve, but only a modest amount. If you make it a 'no pay' job, then the only people who can serve are those who are independently wealthy (or 'otherwise financially backed'). Modest salaries would work, and still allow 'common folk' to serve.

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– 1PhantomStranger [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I agree with you that prosecution should be the correct course of action, but who will prosecute and when? Answer: it hasn't and wont happen. All DC institutions are corrupted beyond repair. The last line of non-violent defense if for honest state legislatures to force corrections onto the federal government for election integrity and to root out the corrupt actors in congress via term limits. The longer they stay in power, the further they are corrupted and represent special interest and not the people. Representing the people was never meant to be a career, it was meant to be a duty, a calling to serve the people, and then go back to their lives being a productive member of society, not a permanent fixture of the establishment. Once they force DC and PR to statehood, we will be further away from having the state legislatures to accomplish any meaningful change on the federal government.

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– ProudOfAmerica 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I completely agree with your points. We are in a tough position...but...

If we don't aim at the right targets, we won't get the right results.

The (ultimate) goal should be to restore law enforcement and prosecute corruption.

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– M1staAC 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

I am not sure how it can happen...but I agree 100% we need term limits for congress and the house. Once Trump is back in office this should be on the top of the to do next list!

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– BGridd 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

There is already a convention of states or article 5 convention, in process, https://conventionofstates.com/ 1.8 million have already signed the petition. 15 states have pass resolutions in both chambers. 8 more states have passed resolutions in 1 , and 5 more had active legislation for 2020. That one started primarily about fiscal restraints on the federal gov, but the convention could address other issues too.

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– 1PhantomStranger [S] 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

We have to get this link stickied!!

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– blood-stone 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Consecutive term limits. In other words these politicians server for years need to go back to the real world and see how real people live. No more of politician as a career. Senators limited to two terms is twelve years, let them go back into the public sector and find out how their policies affect people. and mo more than than for Representatives, if they want to be in politics that long become a senator. What we want is real turn over of reps and senators, get new ideas in new perspectives, and new ways of looking at old problems. Enough of the same old packs of idiots, who think its ok to rob, cheat and steal from we the people. That bill that gave Billions to other countries, for no true return is part of the problem, as well since we know a % of that money comes back as lobbyists and kickbacks.

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– test_pattern 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

That is exactly what the DS and Dems want, to rewrite the Constitution. If you think for a second a Constitutional Convention among the States would not be hijacked by the Deep State Controllers, I suggest you review the 2020 [fake] Election.

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– jojoQ1 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

and no one over 40 that hasn't got experience in real life

no career politicians

and no lawyers allowed - only normal people.

you wanna be a lawyer go be a lawyer you CANNOT serve in public office

FKG lawyers think they can do everything by decree - cos that is all they know.

and the ones that aren't total idiots and can't communicate to save their lives, are professional liars that work to cheat and find ways around everything and double speak everything.

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– spookyjumper 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I agree. Too close for comfort at this point. I especially disagree with the idea of term limits - the vote is the only MEANS of accountability. With term limits, the power in OUR government devolves to the staffers - faceless unelected and unaccountable.

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