FUD in Silver? Read this.
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Im not going to watch.
Buy physical silver. Run the banks, Watch the world burn.
Or dont. And hold onto FIAT AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
He talks about "silver" but its not "silver" we need to buy and hold, its in hand, shiny, physical silver we need to buy and hold.
I am not sure if buying SLV at any point is the play. It may come into play at some point for a short squeeze, or to force SLV to be turned into physical silver delivery (which can't be done), but that is not the play yet, and likely won't be until after GME has run its course.
Right now the play is physical silver. Buy it, hold it, and don't worry about the stock price. That is irrelevant to physical silver. They will likely drive SLV down as a psy op to stop people buying physical as "too expensive." They REALLY don't want us buying up all the real stuff, with real intrinsic value. That has been their main source of power in America for over 100 years.
We think alike.
You sound like you know this stuff - is it safe to buy physical silver online? Are there specific words to look for in the description to determine it's authenticity or purity?? Or specific trusted sites to use? I want to participate in purchasing but I am ignorant to the industry.
jmbullion.com and apmex.com are both long time PM online retailers with a good reputation. Stock is spotty in the current "Silver rush" (there was literally none available yesterday). There appears to be some right now at a good price. Buy bars or "rounds" (look like coins but actually just pure silver like the bars). Do not buy coins unless there is a particularly good deal. Coins have an added "collectors value" cost which will not appreciate like the metal will and have less silver content than the bullion (bars and rounds).
Thank you as well!!
Coins are good as well. Just make sure to get the 90% ones though.
I don’t fully agree. Junk silver (coins prior 196?, still have 90% silver. Plus there’s the chance you might find a collectible coin in the lot. Plus if silver were one day needed for basic goods, us mint coins are probably going to be trusted more than a bar with a cute picture on it.
Please note that I said "Do not buy coins unless there is a particularly good deal."
I did NOT say, "Do not buy coins."
If junk coins of the 90% silver variety are less than or equal to bullion price * 0.9 for the same weight then they are a reasonable purchase. I had not provided all that information with the intention of being less confusing for the new silver buyer.
Look for a local coin shop. Every city has them. Ask for the price for US silver coins or silver rounds (just private mints). The online places mark up so much. You shouldn't have to pay more than $5 above the strike price. The local guys will have lots of interesting coins. I bought 25 silver oz from the UK. Beautiful coins. If I never need them will give them to the kids. Also don't get fooled by pre-1933 gold. Supposedly pre-1933 gold can't be confiscated. You pay a huge premium. Let's face it. No one is going to turn in their gold to a government official. We would rather throw it in the ocean than do that.
Wonderful, thank you for the tips!!
I am hesitant to post this and get you second guessing yourself because it can be easy to feel a bit overwhelmed.
The dealers Slyver recommended are fine and well known in what we call the 'stacking' community. Sdbullion is another well respected US bullion dealer. I personally don't use these websites being that I'm in AUS and use dealers local to me though.
There are a few main forms of silver that are relevant to your query, in no particular order these are:
Government minted bullion, for example the 'American Silver Eagle' or the 'Canadian Silver Maple Leaf'
'Rounds' or 'generics' which are privately minted examples of rounds
Bars, for example the Perth Mint 1kg silver bar
'Constitutional' or 'Junk' Silver which are any half dollars, quarters, and dimes minted by the US government before 1965 and contain 90% silver. Other countries have similar coinage histories but the details obviously vary.
A few details to know about silver (these tidbits often apply to gold as well).
At any given moment the international price of silver and gold (the price before any premiums are added) is called 'spot price' and you can find it by searching 'spot price silver' for example. You'll want to try and get your head around how the price changes over time in relation to inflation etc. and build your perspective so you understand why you are investing in it, what your end goal is (if you want to sell, why and when?).
Coins/bars etc. are measured in purity which is how many parts per 1000 are pure silver, 0.999 fineness (shortened to .999 or 99.9%) means there are 999 parts silver and 1 part of something else--99.9% is the general standard of purity. The 'Junk silver' I mentioned before is only 90% silver and 10% copper which means if you want to buy junk silver you have to do a bit of math to work out if the silver content is being priced fairly or if they are charging premiums that you should avoid.
All silver products incur a premium, it's just an inevitable and normal part of the process, this is influenced by rarity, finish (production standards), historical value, cost of production/dealer's cut, scarcity due to market conditions and a range of other things.
A couple of main points relating to premiums are:
The smaller the item, the higher the premiums get (for silver you generally want to stick to 1oz coins or larger, going to 1/10oz for silver gets very pricy because of exorbitant premiums).
If your goal is to protect your purchasing power, you are best off staying away from fancy limited edition, numismatic/rare stuff or bizarre designs that may only appeal to few potential buyers, unless you know a lot about it because that enters collector territory and that is a whole different game and people can burn themselves playing it.
Of the four forms of silver I listed above, I prefer Government minted bullion the most followed by bars, junk silver and my least favourite is generics/rounds. This is a personal decision to make but my reasoning is that government minted bullion is minted by a trusted and recognised entity and there are very strict laws surrounding counterfeiting which minimises the risk of fakes and you are going to be able to convince someone it's worth something more easily than you could with a round/generic if the situation called for it. I also just think the gov minted coins generally look better which is a trivial factor but still one that might influence your choices.
You would probably benefit from searching on youtube about 'stacking', 'silver stacking' etc., some decent channels related to stacking and precious metals are: Yankee Stacking, Stansberry Research Stansberry Research does many interviews but I recommend looking at some of the interviews with Rick Rule as a starting point. Kitco News Also has some good interviews with Jim Rickards and others. belangp
All the best with it. Feel free to ask questions but most basics should be covered.
Anyone here old veterans of the Forums Gold is Money? It was around till sometime 201X and I joined around 2004ish. I learned so much there.
But there was a group of silver hawks that endlessly harped on this. Wall street was artificially controlling physical silver by shorting SLV. Even some of the gold guys would say silver was a bad PM to invest. I bought a lot of silver because of those guys. Also some of them were the few pushing palladium at the time and was around $700. ?
They also predicted the housing bubble crash. It started me to watch all the house listings popping up around my area. For years I would point it out to my wife who eventually lost interest when it failed to materialize in a few years. Well we all know it did eventually happen. What also happened was PMs spiked. Butttt... Silver skyrocketed. Well, Until the bailouts. Then it fluttered back down. Wall street lost control for a second. Maybe? We saw the true value try to peak out. From around $10 to $50 (I remember around $100, but the historical charts disagree) in days time.
So this isn't a new theory. It's just now coming to the masses.
Word is that the wizard of OZ is a thinly veiled reference to sound money. In the original story, it is alleged, the slippers were SILVER, and of course the road is GOLD, not yellow.
Get yourself some OZ of silver, and pull back the curtain.
I just got silver yesterday, going to keep buying the physical stuff as much as I can