Q being right again...2 years later.
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Yeah no doubt, it can be absolutely dangerous. But hydrochloric acid will absolutely destroy you, but can be completely neutralized with a 1:1 ratio of water.
After leaving the treatment plant it would be introduced to a million gallons of water.
What concentration would that have been when it reached the faucet? Hard to tell, im sure someone can figure it out. They increased the concentration 100x at the facility. But there are several more steps to the treatment before even leaving the facility.
Im not downplaying the possibility of how dangerous it is, but the concentration at the faucet would likely have been nothing more than a mild irritant.
For example, apples contain arsenic and cyanide. Concentration matters.
Agreed. The fact they can mess with drinking water is terrifying, though.
I worked at a plant way back when and we talked about that all the time. Our infrastructure is basically unprotected. Definitely terrifying that it was done online.
No, no, no, no, no...
HCl can be EXACTLY neutralized by a 1:1 with NaOH. This produces a salt [NaCl] water precipitate with neutral pH.
HCl and NaOH are sorta opposite sides of the same toxic coin. They are both pretty much equally harmful at equal concentrations.
A 1:1 solution of HCl and H2O produces an extremely high molar concentration of Hydrochloric Acid. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT MAKE SUCH A SOLUTION AND CONSUME IT. IT IS NOT NEUTRAL!!!!
You would literally melt. Same as a 1:1 solution of NaOH and H2O.
Please learn chemistry before giving advice on chemical consumption safety. Please. I'm not trying to be demeaning. Please.
There is no NaOH at the faucet. That's not how it works. NaOH in solution splits into the ions Na+ OH-. In a bottle these will for the most part stay in the solution and do nothing. But in a system where it moves, flows, encounters other things such as a cities water supply, the OH- will be neutralized by other things (free H+ from random acids) and the Na+ will either stay in solution or precipitate out with other ions it may encouter (such as Cl-).
It also may be that a cities water supply is slightly basic and there is a predominance of OH-. I don't know, also don't care. That is not a proof that NaOH is "safe" in any way shape or form for consumption.
In this we are in complete agreement.
Sorry its 1:1 with NaOH, but 1:10 to neutralize HCL in water which gives you what a ph of 7? But thats a typo that i will correct.
If NaOH completely disassociates in water then it would never make it out of the plant, which is my point. You have the disinfection stage, then filtration, sedimentation and settling, a chemical coagulation and further settling, aeration, etc etc.
Thats all before it joins the rest of the city water and pumped into a tower, before returning down to city pipes then to your house. It would come in contact with millions of gallons of water and loads of heavy metals along the way from zinc coated steel pipes and lead.
I have a little bit of a chemistry background and worked a water treatment plat for few years in my youth so no need for the condescending tone.
To me this seemed more like an attack on the plant itself then an attempt to poison the water supply. It probably made one hell of a show at the plant when they introduced all that NaOH to water.
Yea, very exothermic reactions.
That's just not how it works. I am going to assume when you say HCl you mean a 1 molar solution of HCl. Or maybe you mean a 0.1M solution. Maybe a 0.1M solution (which is already a reasonably low concentration) mixed 10:1 with water would make it sufficiently not acidic to burn you. I'd have to do the math on that, but ya, maybe.
The main problem is, you know literally nothing about basic chemistry. I'm sorry, but its true. I will concede that your final story on NaOH in the water is true, but it also aligns exactly with everything I have said to help you elaborate to this point, so.. There it is.
We agree. Don't consume NaOH or HCl. Ever. If you ever get any on you, wash it off IMMEDIATELY (both will literally melt your face off). However, if a little of it is in your water from the water treatment plant, by the time it gets to your house it is neutralized and you don't have to worry about it.