Funny. I always say “whether Mormon or Exmormon, Utah is the place for you.” I LOVE Utah. All my friends are Exmormons and we’ve all bonded over that (Im one of the few I know though that still loves and respects the church—I never really got bitter about anything.)
I’m an Az Mormon, but a small town Mormon not a Mesa Mormon so we always laughed at the Molly’s because most friends were not Mormon. Most of my family is still cool with the church except 2 sisters one had records removed to marry in the Catholic Church and one wanted her records removed and hates me and the church because I’m conservative and a Trump supporter. I have a difficult time going to activities sometimes because it’s too draining to be that happy and cheerful.
Well I don’t mind the happy and cheerful part. For me, after I stopped believing the truth claims (I think it’s obvious the Book of Mormon is a work of fiction), it became too hard sitting there listening to takes from people who still hadn’t.
Don’t get me wrong I’m still a huge fan of the Book of Mormon, but I majored in English (at BYU ?), so I know the true value of good, inspiring fiction. If that perspective were adopted by the church, I think I’d be fine going back. But due to the nature of churches, that perspective isn’t tolerated very well.
That, and I’ve found a slew of friends since I left that I party with every week so I already have a robust community aspect in my life so I no longer yearn for that aspect of it (humans are definitely pack animals who crave fellowship).
But nothing pisses me off more than ignorant never-Mormons spouting hate and ignorance about the Church. As you can tell I won’t hesitate to go to bat for them.
We agree on the Mormon haters. My dad was a convert and his family in Minnesota held a prayer meeting to save him and my mom from the evil religion. Even when I was inactive I stood up for the church too.
Not spouting hate. Seeking truth, like all should be on this site. It all comes down to the fact that when we're all helping we're happy. And I went to a far better school than BYU so not afraid of going toe-to-toe with a BYU English major.
I don’t care what school you went to or whether or not you’re scared to “go toe to toe” with me. The fact is I know personally what goes on in the Mormon temples and you don’t. Even if you went to Harvard it wouldn’t change that. Know when you’re bested. I’m not a Mormon. Im not arguing that Mormonism is better than your religion. I’m simply saying your claim is bullshit and I know from actual experience. Provide proof of your claims that pedophile activity is happening in Mormon temples or shut the fuck up, cause you don’t know shit about fuck on this topic.
Funny. I always say “whether Mormon or Exmormon, Utah is the place for you.” I LOVE Utah. All my friends are Exmormons and we’ve all bonded over that (Im one of the few I know though that still loves and respects the church—I never really got bitter about anything.)
I’m an Az Mormon, but a small town Mormon not a Mesa Mormon so we always laughed at the Molly’s because most friends were not Mormon. Most of my family is still cool with the church except 2 sisters one had records removed to marry in the Catholic Church and one wanted her records removed and hates me and the church because I’m conservative and a Trump supporter. I have a difficult time going to activities sometimes because it’s too draining to be that happy and cheerful.
Well I don’t mind the happy and cheerful part. For me, after I stopped believing the truth claims (I think it’s obvious the Book of Mormon is a work of fiction), it became too hard sitting there listening to takes from people who still hadn’t.
Don’t get me wrong I’m still a huge fan of the Book of Mormon, but I majored in English (at BYU ?), so I know the true value of good, inspiring fiction. If that perspective were adopted by the church, I think I’d be fine going back. But due to the nature of churches, that perspective isn’t tolerated very well.
That, and I’ve found a slew of friends since I left that I party with every week so I already have a robust community aspect in my life so I no longer yearn for that aspect of it (humans are definitely pack animals who crave fellowship).
But nothing pisses me off more than ignorant never-Mormons spouting hate and ignorance about the Church. As you can tell I won’t hesitate to go to bat for them.
We agree on the Mormon haters. My dad was a convert and his family in Minnesota held a prayer meeting to save him and my mom from the evil religion. Even when I was inactive I stood up for the church too.
Not spouting hate. Seeking truth, like all should be on this site. It all comes down to the fact that when we're all helping we're happy. And I went to a far better school than BYU so not afraid of going toe-to-toe with a BYU English major.
I don’t care what school you went to or whether or not you’re scared to “go toe to toe” with me. The fact is I know personally what goes on in the Mormon temples and you don’t. Even if you went to Harvard it wouldn’t change that. Know when you’re bested. I’m not a Mormon. Im not arguing that Mormonism is better than your religion. I’m simply saying your claim is bullshit and I know from actual experience. Provide proof of your claims that pedophile activity is happening in Mormon temples or shut the fuck up, cause you don’t know shit about fuck on this topic.