They called Virginia early on because of the Red Mirage narrative. It made a Biden victory more plausible and muddied a Trump victory. Trump won the election by a massive landslide on election night but the majority of people never learned of that because of Virginia and Arizona being called immediately. You also had other states refusing to call so Trump never got those electoral votes with the blessing of the media. It would look a lot more nefarious to the public if Trump loss 100+ electoral votes with Biden gaining them.
I just don't understand how right now his lawyers cannot file to see all those ballots and data in every state? By law they are supposed to retain all election data and ballots for 22 months, yet we've heard various rumors about them being shredded or data wiped clean.
Where are the ballots? This seems so simple to straighten out and I can't believe it has come to this
I think it's because they did but they refuse to give it to them. In GA they likely shredded a lot of the evidence. In PA we saw the Veritas video of all the ballots that were thrown in the garbage which most of them appeared to be for Trump if I remember correctly. I think Arizona was subpoenaed to turn over documents or the machines yet they refuse to. Imagine ignoring court orders. All of us would be dealt with immediately but these people are either untouchable or this is a very slow burn meant to eventually change public opinion in favor or our side. At this point I'm not sure what to believe.
Yea I don't understand whats going on either. Especially since someone just sent me this. I'm trying to independently verify each instance, but I have a million other things to do today.
In a recent Pennsylvania federal case, Giuliani alleged “widespread, nationwide voter fraud” in his opening remarks. But under questioning from the judge, he retreated. “This is not a fraud case,” Giuliani later admitted. In the same case, Trump lawyer Linda Kearns said explicitly that she is “not proceeding” on allegations of fraud.
In a separate state case in Montgomery County, Pa., a judge asked Trump lawyer Jonathan S. Goldstein whether he was alleging fraud. “Your honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step,” Goldstein said. “And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the [Democratic National Committee] or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith.” The judge pressed Goldstein to answer the specific question: “Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?” To which Goldstein replied: “To my knowledge at present, no.”
In yet another state case in Bucks County, Pa., Trump’s attorneys signed a joint stipulation of facts that explicitly admits that they are not alleging fraud, despite the President and his lawyers’ repeated public claims, according to Marc Elias, a lawyer working for Democrats on election-related cases. The stipulation of facts reads in part: “Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud in connection with the challenged ballots.” The stipulation also says they don’t allege or have evidence of “misconduct” or “impropriety” in connection with the challenged ballots.
On Thursday, a judge rejected the Trump campaign’s attempt to throw out absentee ballots in the Bucks County case, noting, “The parties specifically stipulated in their comprehensive stipulation of facts that there exists no evidence of any fraud, misconduct, or any impropriety with respect to the challenged ballots. There is nothing in the record and nothing alleged that would lead to the conclusion that any of the challenged ballots were submitted by someone not qualified or entitled to vote in this election.”
Arizona
In a state case concerning votes in Maricopa County, Ariz., Trump lawyers again dodged and weaved. On Nov. 12, the same day that the President himself was tweeting about hundreds of thousands of votes being stolen from him, a Trump campaign attorney Kory Langhofer told a judge, “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. We are not alleging anyone stealing the election.”
While Trump has repeatedly claimed that glitches in voting machines were evidence of foul play, Langhofer also threw cold water on that idea, saying instead the case concerned “a limited number of cases” of “good-faith errors in operating machines.” The Trump campaign has since dropped this case.
They called Virginia early on because of the Red Mirage narrative. It made a Biden victory more plausible and muddied a Trump victory. Trump won the election by a massive landslide on election night but the majority of people never learned of that because of Virginia and Arizona being called immediately. You also had other states refusing to call so Trump never got those electoral votes with the blessing of the media. It would look a lot more nefarious to the public if Trump loss 100+ electoral votes with Biden gaining them.
I just don't understand how right now his lawyers cannot file to see all those ballots and data in every state? By law they are supposed to retain all election data and ballots for 22 months, yet we've heard various rumors about them being shredded or data wiped clean.
Where are the ballots? This seems so simple to straighten out and I can't believe it has come to this
I think it's because they did but they refuse to give it to them. In GA they likely shredded a lot of the evidence. In PA we saw the Veritas video of all the ballots that were thrown in the garbage which most of them appeared to be for Trump if I remember correctly. I think Arizona was subpoenaed to turn over documents or the machines yet they refuse to. Imagine ignoring court orders. All of us would be dealt with immediately but these people are either untouchable or this is a very slow burn meant to eventually change public opinion in favor or our side. At this point I'm not sure what to believe.
Yea I don't understand whats going on either. Especially since someone just sent me this. I'm trying to independently verify each instance, but I have a million other things to do today.
In a separate state case in Montgomery County, Pa., a judge asked Trump lawyer Jonathan S. Goldstein whether he was alleging fraud. “Your honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step,” Goldstein said. “And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the [Democratic National Committee] or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith.” The judge pressed Goldstein to answer the specific question: “Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?” To which Goldstein replied: “To my knowledge at present, no.”
In yet another state case in Bucks County, Pa., Trump’s attorneys signed a joint stipulation of facts that explicitly admits that they are not alleging fraud, despite the President and his lawyers’ repeated public claims, according to Marc Elias, a lawyer working for Democrats on election-related cases. The stipulation of facts reads in part: “Petitioners do not allege, and there is no evidence of, any fraud in connection with the challenged ballots.” The stipulation also says they don’t allege or have evidence of “misconduct” or “impropriety” in connection with the challenged ballots.
On Thursday, a judge rejected the Trump campaign’s attempt to throw out absentee ballots in the Bucks County case, noting, “The parties specifically stipulated in their comprehensive stipulation of facts that there exists no evidence of any fraud, misconduct, or any impropriety with respect to the challenged ballots. There is nothing in the record and nothing alleged that would lead to the conclusion that any of the challenged ballots were submitted by someone not qualified or entitled to vote in this election.”
Arizona In a state case concerning votes in Maricopa County, Ariz., Trump lawyers again dodged and weaved. On Nov. 12, the same day that the President himself was tweeting about hundreds of thousands of votes being stolen from him, a Trump campaign attorney Kory Langhofer told a judge, “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. We are not alleging anyone stealing the election.”
While Trump has repeatedly claimed that glitches in voting machines were evidence of foul play, Langhofer also threw cold water on that idea, saying instead the case concerned “a limited number of cases” of “good-faith errors in operating machines.” The Trump campaign has since dropped this case.